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Old May 6th, 2007, 05:21 AM   #861
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the base is the same size as the old WTC towers, although it tapers further up
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Old May 6th, 2007, 05:55 AM   #862
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the base is the same size as the old WTC towers, although it tapers further up
Thanks. If you look at the earthcam, it looks like they have outlined another part of the base directly north of where the 2nd tower crane will be. It parralells with the remaining parking garage. Is that apart of the core as well?

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Old May 6th, 2007, 09:03 AM   #863
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this tower has a 400ft spire on top....i was against seeing that the Sears tower lost out to the P Twins....now the SWFC will lose out to the FT ....see the irony..o well
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Old May 6th, 2007, 06:48 PM   #864
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Thanks. If you look at the earthcam, it looks like they have outlined another part of the base directly north of where the 2nd tower crane will be. It parralells with the remaining parking garage. Is that apart of the core as well?

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Yes that is indeed part of the core, in fact i believe the second crane will be built in that area. Aso the core is much larger than whats there right now, once they finish the core the concrete sub floors and stell beams will start going up.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 07:35 PM   #865
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this tower has a 400ft spire on top....i was against seeing that the Sears tower lost out to the P Twins....now the SWFC will lose out to the FT ....see the irony..o well
Yes, I know the feeling, although Sears tower looks taller, only because a thin spire, the title was stolen away by the Petronas. The same will happen with the Freedom tower and the SWFC as you said. I'd propose to change the rules for the official height of a building: Spires count, but only for half the height. For example, a spire measures 60 meters, the official height for that building would only add 30 meters to it's height.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 07:43 PM   #866
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This has to be the best thing I've ever seen. I love tower 2 in that shot. Add WTC Tower 5 and all of the other new towers downtown close to the WTC and by 2011 and the DT skyline will be more amazing than any other place in the world, perhaps including Midtown, but who knows what we'll be seeing there...

Construction is going to start on most of the towers in December and I hear that they have been changed a little (ex: "wings on tower 2"). I hope we get new renderings/models.

T2 and 3 are the best. Thanks, UK. Look at how tall and mighty they stand. Thank the gods that the first few plans were dumpped, you know, the ones where the FT was just a 60-story building with a 1,000-foot spire on it and all of the other towers were around 800' tall. We NYers got so lucky. The first WTC masterplan would have scarred us for life. Also, keep in mind that the top of FT (w/o the spire) is still 1,400' tall, which is really damn tall, taller than the Twins, and cite that the building is skinner, which will make it look taller.

T2 is amazing form this view:


What a view we will have in a year, all of the cranes and workers. I hope that they all get lit up well when completed.

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Old May 6th, 2007, 08:30 PM   #867
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My biggest beef with the towers is no symmetry in the buildings. Each one is fine by itself but as a whole they don't work for me.
so what would you suggest then? buildings that looks similar?...
I know what you mean, but this much design diversity, and height, ya cant go wrong.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 08:36 PM   #868
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so what would you suggest then? buildings that looks similar?...
I know what you mean, but this much design diversity, and height, ya cant go wrong.
I don't like the tapering on 1 WTC - it should be square all the way up (and lose that block at the bottom!). Also, are there going to be occupied floors all the way up in it? I do recall the truly maddening discussions from a couple of years ago of a big chunk of that main building's height being unoccupied air.

I do like the others as separate free-standing buildings, too, and they would have also worked wonderfully elsewhere in the Downtown area had the 'Twins' still been there.

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Old May 6th, 2007, 10:29 PM   #869
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dont get me wrong im still excited to have the FT u/c however i just withed it was an antenna to play by the "rules"......as for WT 2/3 i think the are the best looking....and its a relief to hear that something will happen to those buildings before the end of the year....i can only imagine the sight of 3 supertall all within 1000 ft being constucted at one time....GO USA GO USA
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Old May 6th, 2007, 10:35 PM   #870
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It looks as though the area directly south of the crane is already beggining to rise


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I can't see it from this live webcam.
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Old May 6th, 2007, 10:53 PM   #873
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I can't see it from this live webcam.

Zoom in and look directly below the crane.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 02:17 AM   #874
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Oh my god!!! These towers looks great, I hope to see rising in New York's skyline soon.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 04:06 AM   #875
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Zoom in and look directly below the crane.
I see it now. Thanks!
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Old May 7th, 2007, 04:37 AM   #876
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whats the building being built by the north west corner of ground zero?
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Old May 7th, 2007, 06:06 AM   #877
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I'd propose to change the rules for the official height of a building: Spires count, but only for half the height. For example, a spire measures 60 meters, the official height for that building would only add 30 meters to it's height.
No offense, but that's pretty lame. Height is height. Period. It would make far more sense to include radio towers along with spires.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 11:03 AM   #878
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WTC 1 is very slow in progress. I know that constructing the foundations of a high rise takes a lot of time, but with this building it takes forever.
Is there any reason it goes very slow. I have the feeling that is has a kind of political reason.
It is a good moment to see WTC 1 reach street level, then it will go faster.
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whats the building being built by the north west corner of ground zero?
Goldaman Sachs new hq
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WTC 1 is very slow in progress. I know that constructing the foundations of a high rise takes a lot of time, but with this building it takes forever.
Is there any reason it goes very slow. I have the feeling that is has a kind of political reason.
It is a good moment to see WTC 1 reach street level, then it will go faster.
Theres a train that runs on the footprint of this tower, and that train line must be kept running at all times. That is why its taking so long initially.
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