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Old June 5th, 2009, 09:20 AM   #8941
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Once the newly poured B2 slab is cured they can hoist things over the PATH line without having to shut down the train system which has been a huge hindrance to this point. Another thing that will speed work up is getting the temporary Fulton ST built. Logistical access to the site is an absolute nightmare right now with all of the other construction projects surrounding it. They can sometimes close down certain streets but only on weekends.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 08:29 PM   #8942
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A new video on wtc.com shows a recent concrete pour on Tower 4. According to one of the guys in the video, they plan to start pouring concrete for the ground floor level in a couple weeks.

Plus in the webcams we can already see formworks going up for the lobby level. Nice.
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Old June 5th, 2009, 09:11 PM   #8943
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A new video on wtc.com shows a recent concrete pour on Tower 4. According to one of the guys in the video, they plan to start pouring concrete for the ground floor level in a couple weeks.

Plus in the webcams we can already see formworks going up for the lobby level. Nice.
so post it in tower 4 thread then
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Old June 5th, 2009, 09:21 PM   #8944
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so post it in tower 4 thread then
Didn't know we had one. Link?
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Old June 5th, 2009, 09:28 PM   #8945
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Old June 6th, 2009, 06:02 PM   #8946
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ugh, I was hoping they would work on the north core today
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Old June 6th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #8947
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Silver hints W.T.C. consensus is to build more towers

By Julie Shapiro
June 5 - 11, 2009

The negotiations about the future of the World Trade Center site have been going on behind closed doors, but on Friday, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver gave the first hint of what is happening.

The consensus among the stakeholders appears to be shifting toward developer Silverstein Properties’ goal of building as many office towers as possible with the Port Authority’s help, Silver said.

“That’s the purpose,” Silver said in an interview with Downtown Express. “Build more, and build more now. That is our purpose.”

Silverstein cannot build his Church St. office towers on his own because he cannot get construction financing. The Port has agreed to help with Tower 4 but refused to backstop the financing for Tower 2, saying Silverstein can build it when the economy improves and the Port should not be expected to take the risk of financing offices on spec for a private developer. In place of Tower 2 and the neighboring Tower 3, the Port wants to build temporary six-story retail podiums.

But Silver said Friday that now is the time to build the office towers, allying himself very closely with Silverstein’s position. Silver added that Gov. Jon Corzine and Gov. David Paterson are both being “cooperative” in the goal of building more towers now, and Mayor Michael Bloomberg has previously expressed support for building despite the economic downturn.

That is not to say that the stakeholders have sided entirely with Silverstein against the Port Authority. Silver and Bloomberg have called on Silverstein to devote more money to the project, and on Friday Silver said an agreement would require all the parties to make further investments.

“They’re trying to work through a conclusion that has everybody put in a little more: the Port Authority, the city, the state, and most important, Larry Silverstein,” Silver said. “And I hope to get there.”

The closed-door meetings began after an impasse between Silverstein and the Port Authority over the tower financing and delivery of key site infrastructure threatened to halt progress at the site. Alarmed by that prospect, Silver called all the site stakeholders together, and they held their first meeting May 21 at Gracie Mansion, at Bloomberg’s invitation. The meeting included Bloomberg, Silver, both governors, Larry Silverstein and Port Authority executive director Chris Ward.

Since then, Silver said there have been three major meetings with top stakeholders including Larry Silverstein. Those three meetings were held quietly and out of the public eye, often at odd times of the day, Silver said. In addition, Deputy Mayor Bob Lieber has been chairing daily meetings of lower-level staff representing all the parties, a source familiar with the discussions said.

The next publicly announced meeting of the principals will be Thurs., June 11, and the stakeholders have said they hope to have at least the broad outlines of an agreement by then.

“We’re not there yet,” Silver said Friday. “It’s a matter of money, it’s a matter of commitment, it’s a matter of saving money, it’s a matter of refocusing so we can get a result.”

Bloomberg’s office and Silverstein Properties declined to comment. Steve Coleman, Port spokesperson, said only, “Our position on the Port Authority putting in any more money or risk has not changed.”

All the parties involved have been reluctant to talk after Bloomberg made it clear he wanted the negotiations to be entirely private.

“We’re all sworn to secrecy,” Silver told Downtown Express, explaining why he could not go into more detail.

But Silver did repeat his position that now is the time to build Towers 2 and 4, even though the economy is down.

“We’ll be in a different business cycle by 2014 or 2015,” Silver said. “And there are some people who think, there is no other development going on in the city, no other office space. If you look at all the studies, everybody will tell you there’s going to be a need for expanded commercial space in New York City.”

Silver listed the other office projects that are falling through, from Hudson Yards to Atlantic Yards, which will make the World Trade Center towers all the more important.

“New York, Downtown Manhattan, ground zero is going to be the place to go,” Silver said.

Silver said the rebuilt World Trade Center could follow the example of the original Twin Towers, which initially filled with government offices because there was little demand for commercial space.

Silver’s first district office was in room 5489 of 2 W.T.C., he recalled, and later he was moved down to the 26th floor as the real estate grew more valuable. Finally, he was moved out of the building altogether.

“Hopefully there will be a market for it,” Silver said of the new office towers at the site, “and we can prepare for it.”

http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_319/silverhints.html

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Old June 6th, 2009, 09:47 PM   #8948
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at least some good news
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Old June 6th, 2009, 10:27 PM   #8949
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Wow, that article is great news!!! But does it actually mean they are going to build T2 T3? Or is this just more fluff from this project.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 02:16 AM   #8950
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Well, Silver is essentially the most powerful figure in NYS politics as the speaker of the assembly in a state with a weak governor and a weak majority leader in the state senate. On the other hand, the WTC site is in his district so of course he's going to want to build everything right now. Oversight of the Port Authority is held by the governors of NY and NJ, so it's not as if he can just say "Jump!" to the Port Authority and get what he wants.

The Port Authority simply doesn't have lots of free money to tie up backing Silverstein's loans. If a deal is hammered out, it's going to involve a lot more of city and state tax dollars to cover Silverstein's private investment.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 02:24 AM   #8951
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It would be nice to see it got along with a bit.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:43 AM   #8952
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I have a plan>.<
Why don't they make the roof 1776ft.
Make the spire 2009 ft.
On New Years day, they make the spire 1ft taller.
So this building gets taller by 1ft(lmao) every year ^_^
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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:44 AM   #8953
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Well, Silver is essentially the most powerful figure in NYS politics as the speaker of the assembly in a state with a weak governor and a weak majority leader in the state senate. On the other hand, the WTC site is in his district so of course he's going to want to build everything right now. Oversight of the Port Authority is held by the governors of NY and NJ, so it's not as if he can just say "Jump!" to the Port Authority and get what he wants.

The Port Authority simply doesn't have lots of free money to tie up backing Silverstein's loans. If a deal is hammered out, it's going to involve a lot more of city and state tax dollars to cover Silverstein's private investment.
I think they need to at least build Tower 2. If they don't the entire site looks awkward, having Freedom in one corner and Tower 4 in the other. They should have built Tower 2 second to begin with. Why didn’t the Port Authority buy space in Tower 2?
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:41 AM   #8954
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More steel was added to the top of the core yesterday.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 05:24 AM   #8955
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Looks great! Can't wait for it to be completed!
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Old June 7th, 2009, 08:22 AM   #8956
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Looks great! Can't wait for it to be completed!
me too, i cant wait.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 11:04 AM   #8957
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I have a plan>.<
Why don't they make the roof 1776ft.
Make the spire 2009 ft.
On New Years day, they make the spire 1ft taller.
So this building gets taller by 1ft(lmao) every year ^_^
I got a plan too, it's called quit talking. They're not change the height why should they. And 2009 means nothing it's a useless number here. What you just said makes my brain hurt the more I read it.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 12:10 PM   #8958
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at least some good news
I absolutely do not want to offend you webeagle but this is nothing. GOOD NEWS would be to see pictures with workers on the site of tower two, machinery and an official article which confirms the construction of tower two. Since than, EVERYTHING is just talking instead acting! Like it was for several years ago.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 03:41 PM   #8959
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I absolutely do not want to offend you webeagle but this is nothing. GOOD NEWS would be to see pictures with workers on the site of tower two, machinery and an official article which confirms the construction of tower two. Since than, EVERYTHING is just talking instead acting! Like it was for several years ago.
need English classes? I said "some"
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Old June 7th, 2009, 04:30 PM   #8960
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that core is already looking impressive.
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