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Old June 17th, 2009, 01:56 AM   #9061
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That's the plan, yes.
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Old June 17th, 2009, 03:43 AM   #9062
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How are you so sure about this? Where are the facts that say that? It may be easier in fact, because the tracks are already at bedrock level, so there is no need to dig, and the railyards are not an active communter line, it is just a railyard.
OK, considering you don't think that's an appropriate comparison, how about the new Penn Station/Madison Square Garden project? That's planned to be a privately funded and built project and you certainly can say that's not a busy rail station!

In case you're not familiar with the project here's a link: Penn Station
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Old June 17th, 2009, 03:30 PM   #9063
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anybody know what happen with eathcam? I can't even access control panel now
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Old June 17th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #9064
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@webeagle12: same here.

since the other demonstration webcams are still working, I think (and hope) that it is only a technical issue and not a general stop of this (greatly appreciated) service
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Old June 17th, 2009, 06:04 PM   #9065
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Puzzlecraft from SSP made a gif of the North Core jump.

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Old June 17th, 2009, 06:05 PM   #9066
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Old June 17th, 2009, 07:54 PM   #9067
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wow, georgous shot!
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Old June 17th, 2009, 08:03 PM   #9068
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From Onn's original pic:

They start pouring floors? See the red line...
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Old June 18th, 2009, 12:20 AM   #9069
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I believe that is the ground slab level, the last floor before 1...I think. It's probably going to take longer than the other below ground levels, because it's the final one before they start going up. It's hard to tell, it might actually be ground level. But I think that there is still a top to the floor you are pointing out, which would be the floor of the lobby. They are almost to the top of the hole either way. Probably two more weeks.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 12:54 AM   #9070
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Old June 18th, 2009, 12:54 AM   #9071
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I believe that is the ground slab level, the last floor before 1...I think. It's probably going to take longer than the other below ground levels, because it's the final one before they start going up. It's hard to tell, it might actually be ground level. But I think that there is still a top to the floor you are pointing out, which would be the floor of the lobby. They are almost to the top of the hole either way. Probably two more weeks.
That is the lobby level.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 12:59 AM   #9072
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I just noticed this but in those last two photos posted, it looks like they've actually started working on the WALL which will surround the smaller hole in the memorial pool, on the level below the actual pool. Cool!
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Old June 18th, 2009, 01:44 AM   #9073
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That is the lobby level.
That's what I thought originally, but then what are those metal pieces sticking up from the top of the Fulton street connector? I was thinking that was ground level...
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Old June 18th, 2009, 02:08 AM   #9074
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It isn't. Thats the floor before the lobby slab.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 02:13 AM   #9075
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It isn't. Thats the floor before the lobby slab.
That's what I thought...if I'm reading you correctly. So this is not lobby level yet.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 05:02 AM   #9076
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Port Authority on hot seat at ground zero
By Theresa Agovino
June 17, 2009

It’s getting ugly.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg blamed The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey again on Wednesday for the logjam between the agency and developer Larry Silverstein over financing construction of two office towers at ground zero.

"We cannot leave a hole in the ground and the Port Authority just has to come to the party,” Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference.

The mayor added that the city itself may find a way to help end the impasse with some funds of its own. He wasn’t specific, but sources say that during negotiations the city had offered to cover $100 million in Mr. Silverstein’s financing shortfalls so that he could construct two towers. Mr. Silverstein wants the Port to back two of his towers but the agency has only offered support for one, saying it would be irresponsible to use public money to finance a risky, private real estate deal. The city’s offer still doesn’t take enough financial risk off the Port’s back, according to some sources close to the negotiations.

Frustrations are running high, sources say, because the two sides aren’t close to reaching a deal after nearly three weeks of negotiations brokered by the mayor and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver.

The mayor and Mr. Silver have been turning the screws on the Port to break the deadlock but it’s still unclear how effective their campaign will be. The agency is controlled by the governors of New York and New Jersey, who sources say agree that the Port should only back one tower.

The mayor acknowledged Wednesday that the Port does have its balance sheet to worry about, and said multiple changes in governors in both states since the attacks have contributed to the problems at ground zero.

On Tuesday, Messrs. Bloomberg and Silver fired the first salvo at the Port. In a statement they announced: “We fundamentally believe that there are opportunities to find mutually agreeable and responsible terms that align the Port Authority’s interests with the city’s and the nation’s and that allow continued progress at ground zero.” Mr. Silverstein’s name wasn’t even mentioned in the release.

Today, the mayor turned up the heat even more by praising Mr. Silverstein at a press conference, while reiterating that what’s good for The Port “may be slightly at odds: with what is good for America and the city.

“I will say Larry Silverstein, while not turning over the keys to his family’s net worth, has come up and has made a lot of progress, (and is) willing to step in,” said the mayor at the press conference.


The developer has a lease which allows it to build three towers at the World Trade Center site, which is owned by the Port Authority.

Mr. Silverstein had been criticized for not having any of his own money in the project. Sources said that during the negotiations he had offered to put up $75 million and said he would assume responsibility for the work at the site, which would save $400 million. However, others point out that he offered no guarantee for the $400 million and that the $75 million represented less than 2% of the buildings’ costs.

In another swipe at the Port, on Tuesday, the New York Post reported that Christopher Ward, the head of the Port Authority, was out of town over the weekend while negotiations continued. It quoted a source saying that it was impossible to strike a deal when the Port’s lead negotiator was absent.

A Port spokesman called the story “silly” and told the Post that “low blows won’t get a deal done.”

In a statement, the Port said, “We agree that the progress at the World Trade Center must continue. We are working with all parties to advance the private development in a realistic way that protects public resources for the people of this region.

Spokespeople for Mr. Silver, New York Gov. David Paterson and New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine didn’t immediately return calls. A spokesman for Mr. Silverstein declined comment.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 05:41 AM   #9077
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That's what I thought originally, but then what are those metal pieces sticking up from the top of the Fulton street connector? I was thinking that was ground level...
That is temporary steel put in place to (eventually) create a service road to allow material to reach the tower. It does not represent the elevation of the actual street/lobby level and will be removed eventually. I think the reason why it's raised so far above the street level is so that work can continue on the street level part of Fulton Street while the service road is there, but I'm not sure.

Trust me, it is the lobby level.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 06:09 AM   #9078
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That is temporary steel put in place to (eventually) create a service road to allow material to reach the tower. It does not represent the elevation of the actual street/lobby level and will be removed eventually. I think the reason why it's raised so far above the street level is so that work can continue on the street level part of Fulton Street while the service road is there, but I'm not sure.

Trust me, it is the lobby level.
Okay, yeah I think I see it. I don't know why I thought the steel was street level. So they are further along than I thought, that's good news.

Lobby level is under way everyone! Lobby Level!
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Old June 18th, 2009, 03:05 PM   #9079
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Yeah, it looks like they are working on the lobby level. All below grade steel has been erected.

It alsoseems like there has been even more progress on WTC Tower 4.
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Old June 18th, 2009, 06:27 PM   #9080
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anybody know who I can contact about Earthcam situation? this is retarded

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