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Old July 23rd, 2009, 04:19 AM   #9501
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Doesn't matter where you were born, just read the forum. No, I have nothing against you as a person. Was I a bit harsh ? I didn't intend to be.

There is but one core to this building, it just happens to be built in halves.

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Old July 23rd, 2009, 04:47 AM   #9502
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I am reading this forum for years, but I post very rarely. I know all that things. You have to remember that capital letters still mean that you are screaming in the net.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 05:07 AM   #9503
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I think everyone knows the building has one core when using north core/south core. The only reason we use those terms is because of how its being built. Hopefully in a month or so we won't have to use the terms north and south anymore because both will be on the same level.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 09:18 PM   #9504
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OK, so I'm tryna get this straight. The FT is being built with 2 cores. South & North. Did the original Towers built with 2 cores or only 1? Also is the FT cores gonna be built around concrete all the way up or just steal? Something like this:


I think from looking at old pictures the original Towers weren't built with a concrete core just steal. Something like this:

IDK, I'm new to these stuff. Can someone correct me. Thanks!!

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Old July 23rd, 2009, 09:37 PM   #9505
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It looks like the waterfront is very close to the towers in that old picture! Now it seems like it's much further away!
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 09:43 PM   #9506
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that's because now there's a whole neighborhood between the waterfront and the wtc
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 09:54 PM   #9507
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The last photo is World Trade Center during the construction, correct??.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 09:56 PM   #9508
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Yes, the orginal North Tower.

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It looks like the waterfront is very close to the towers in that old picture! Now it seems like it's much further away!
The World Financial Center was built later, which is the collection of unattractive blocky brown buildings with copper roofs, next door.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:10 PM   #9509
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Thx alot for your info .
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:16 PM   #9510
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Yes, the orginal North Tower.



The World Financial Center was built later, which is the collection of unattractive blocky brown buildings with copper roofs, next door.
The WFC towers look great o_O
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:21 PM   #9511
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The WFC towers look great o_O
They do? The whole complex looks like a relic from the 80's, that's about the best thing I can say about it. Personally, I think the WFC is a disaster; I don't know what the architect was thinking. There are palm trees in the atrium, copper roofs, brown cladding. It seems a little silly to me.

But everyone has their own opinion on it, and I respect yours.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:23 PM   #9512
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They're by no means masterpieces, but I don't find anything offensive about the designs at all. If anything, they've become and iconic part of lower manhattan's skyline.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:27 PM   #9513
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That’s what I’m saying, that’s about the best thing you can say about the WFC. I don't think there is any other collection of buildings in the world that looks even close. It’s unique, but the complex did not age well at all. It was built in the spur of the moment.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:27 PM   #9514
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ICONIC?

Ha Good one.

WFC was one of the biggest mistakes the city planners have ever made. The beauty and brilliance of the original WTC was it's proximity to the water and the incredible beauty of it's reflection. It made the towers feel as though they were floating on the Hudson....
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:34 PM   #9515
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If they keep filling in the Hudson, eventually New York and New Jersey will be connected. Maybe a nice drive to the Statue of Liberty? Planes can land on solid ground?

I like the highway on the water and the twin towers right next to it. When you visit the site today, there is no sense of being near the water. At least when at ground level.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:36 PM   #9516
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WFC

I think they look just like Canary Wharf in London......not original or unique...
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:42 PM   #9517
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Ha Good one.

WFC was one of the biggest mistakes the city planners have ever made. The beauty and brilliance of the original WTC was it's proximity to the water and the incredible beauty of it's reflection. It made the towers feel as though they were floating on the Hudson....
I agree with you, someone lost their top! The WFC is completely irrelevant today as far as modern office space goes. No foreign company is going to want space in that mess. I wouldn't mind if they tore it down one day. Then they could build a proper neighbor to the new WTC.

Now, I'm not saying that the new WTC won't go out of style some day either. But design philosophy has changed from making things "groovy" looking, to "functional".
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 11:48 PM   #9518
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I think they look just like Canary Wharf in London......not original or unique...
You mean the Canary Wharf looks like WFC?

Indeed, when originally built the WTC was next to the hudson river, however they backfilled that with what was dug up at the WTC site.

As to the merit of the WFC architecture, while not the most impressive it is by far not the worst peice of urban planning in this city. For that, check out anything built by the McSam corporation. Now that is horrid urban planning.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:01 AM   #9519
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One other thing that struck me about the photo of the old WTC construction is how towering the Verizon building looked back then. Now it's dwarfed by everything around it.
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Old July 24th, 2009, 12:10 AM   #9520
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wfc isn't all that, that much we know. I wish the city could start all over again and make the buildings at less 900 feet. The design could be hell of better. 1WTC should look pretty good behind them tho.
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