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Old May 12th, 2007, 02:45 AM   #941
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Old May 12th, 2007, 02:51 AM   #942
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At this rate, they will easily be finished with the second crane tommorow.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 03:23 AM   #943
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Cool rendering, but it's not what I'd call accurate.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 05:34 AM   #944
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It's the tower all the way on the bottom (130 Liberty Street). It will have over 50 floors and will be over 700 feet tall for sure. If you were to extend that map a few more blocks outward, there would be at least five other towers over 600' being built/proposed.
Is that where the Deutsch Bank building is/was?

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Old May 12th, 2007, 07:09 AM   #945
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Man..heaven forbid NY ended up with any of the other versions of the Freedom Tower.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 04:40 PM   #946
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Im glad Libibenski wasnt the architect the design he did looked to much like a sculpture rather then an actaul building.
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Old May 12th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #947
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Okay, and then WTC 5 is still to come. Where will this tower be placed?
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nice arieal....helps alot to see the placement of the Twins to the realative lots of the new complex
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Old May 13th, 2007, 03:51 AM   #948
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Im glad Libibenski wasnt the architect the design he did looked to much like a sculpture rather then an actaul building.

Well if you can't get it right after 4 tries, they should find someone else.

Mr. Childs' design is simple, elegant, and it doesn't look like a damaged building. Deconstructionism is THE most retarded idea for any of these WTC buildings. As if anyone wanted a constant visual reminder of terrible things dominating the lower Manhattan skyline.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 05:00 AM   #949
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Looks like this going to be the final design. What a pity ! I wonder why such an iconic building should have a stick on its head ? Build all the way up man ! LVT looks much better than this design.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 05:59 AM   #950
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^ The original WTC has a stick on it's head too. What's the big deal?
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Old May 13th, 2007, 03:07 PM   #951
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The roof height is the same as the old One WTC (417m). So they wanted to keep that height, which I think is more important than trying to compete.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 04:39 PM   #952
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Looks like this going to be the final design. What a pity ! I wonder why such an iconic building should have a stick on its head ? Build all the way up man ! LVT looks much better than this design.
Bet Lvt stays on the drawing boards, sparky.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 05:08 PM   #953
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how many changes in the design of the tower... I never saw the design of august 2003.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #954
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The roof height is the same as the old One WTC (417m). So they wanted to keep that height, which I think is more important than trying to compete.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 11:37 PM   #955
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When are going to start the others 3 towers? And when will be finished?

About the height of the freedom tower I wonder: if is the same (417m) than the old one, with "only" 77 floors: which is the office storey heigh? And the first base storeis and upper levels heigh? (Looks very much, about 8 meters per level) Can anyone explain me the seccion and levels of the proyect?

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Old May 13th, 2007, 11:41 PM   #956
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the other towers will start by end of this year. completion date probably 2011 or later
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Old May 13th, 2007, 11:45 PM   #957
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Floor breakdown

* Sublevels - Garage/Retail/Transportation
* Ground Floor - Main Lobby
* 1st-19th Floors (Base) - Podium (Not Occupied on the base except for lobby)
* 20th-63rd Floors - Offices
* 64th Floor - Sky lobby
* 65th - 88th Floors - Offices
* 89th and 90th Floors - Transmission equipment
* 91st - 100th Floors - Mechanical
* 100th - 101st Floors - Restaurant
* 102nd Floor - Observation deck
* 103rd - 108th Floors - Mechanical (Unoccupied)
* Top of the Building - Observation deck Two (Proposed)



I thought it wasnt gonna have a parking garage, but I guess I was wrong.
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Old May 14th, 2007, 12:40 AM   #958
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Thanks for the pic

The point was never for the finished thing to look exactly like that, it was an indicitive masterplan of how the buildings should be arranged and a few other ideas about how the site could be re-developed sensitively but effectively. It contained a great degree of emotion, symbolism and thought in it that many people appear now to have forgotten about. It was a powerful masterplan that would have made this a really special place with lots of hidden messages, that is what Danny does best, putting emotion into buildings. Instead we have emotionless blocks in a very sensitive location. I have no doubt that it will look pretty good but it will have lost much of the integrity of Libeskinds plan. I always felt that the sloping roofs were a great idea and would be a pointer on the skyline to a very important place. The idea was that the individual architects would have free reign but should try to keep the slope, only Foster obliged which is sad IMO. The spire on the freedom tower, its orientation, proportions etc was supposed to echo the thrust of the statue of liberty. I think it is a grave shame that people didn't appreciate these details.

Please tell me the main tower is 1776 feet and not some stupid arbitrary number.
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The point was never for the finished thing to look exactly like that, it was an indicitive masterplan of how the buildings should be arranged and a few other ideas about how the site could be re-developed sensitively but effectively. It contained a great degree of emotion, symbolism and thought in it that many people appear now to have forgotten about. It was a powerful masterplan that would have made this a really special place with lots of hidden messages, that is what Danny does best, putting emotion into buildings. Instead we have emotionless blocks in a very sensitive location. I have no doubt that it will look pretty good but it will have lost much of the integrity of Libeskinds plan. I always felt that the sloping roofs were a great idea and would be a pointer on the skyline to a very important place. The idea was that the individual architects would have free reign but should try to keep the slope, only Foster obliged which is sad IMO. The spire on the freedom tower, its orientation, proportions etc was supposed to echo the thrust of the statue of liberty. I think it is a grave shame that people didn't appreciate these details.

Please tell me the main tower is 1776 feet and not some stupid arbitrary number.
The height of the Freedom Tower is at the thread title at the top of the page, but I'll save you the time and tell you it is 1776 feet. The current plan still holds many of libeskind original ideas for the site, but in all honesty, except for the freedom tower, the other towers were placeholders. He even stated this himself, the only one that was even sort of designed was the Freedom Towers, but the slanting roofs of the others were just a mock up of buildings and by no means of what they should look like (thank god).
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Old May 14th, 2007, 03:31 AM   #960
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umm the company in Germany designed the metal portions of the facade, producing it in several locations , and Viracon produced the glass.

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Most of the glass was purchased in the USA. The elements themselves were produced for the most part in Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore and southern China. The aluminium profiles were prefabricated and coated in Thailand and the stainless steel elements were produced in southern China. Most of the special elements were assembled at the new factory in Taiwan.
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