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Old July 28th, 2009, 05:43 AM   #9581
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Can anybody link me to the most recent memorial thread? I can't seem to find it...
I think we were kind of just using this thread. There might be one, but I wouldn't know where that is exactly. Probably in General Development...
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Old July 28th, 2009, 07:13 AM   #9582
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i agree about the transit hub. yes it might be big and expensive, but isn't that what new york is anyways? (!) besides i think it breaks up the rows of glass nicely
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Old July 28th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #9583
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Most seem to disagree with me, but I truly think the Transportation Hub is the one of the most important parts of the site. It's the part that everyone will get to interact with, top to bottom. It should be large and expensive, and the Port Authority should not pull one dime away from it.

Oh and nice poster.
No argument here. I had a lively time trying to explain to someone why I thought Lower Manhattan deserved something better than just keeping the temporary station. When you want someone to remember New York, do you bring them to Penn Station or Grand Central?
The greatest collection of skyscrapers in the Western hemisphere deserves more than a roller skating rink for an entrance.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 06:48 PM   #9584
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By the way, which building do you take your pictures from, Onn? From your latest it looks like 2 World Financial Center.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 08:14 PM   #9585
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Old July 28th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #9586
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That is the exact same picture Onn posted.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 09:05 PM   #9587
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By the way, which building do you take your pictures from, Onn? From your latest it looks like 2 World Financial Center.
Oh, no, those aren't mine. I'm posting someone else’s pictures. I would definitely take pictures if I could. But I don't even live in New York, I'm from IndiansUnite territory.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #9588
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Oh, no, those aren't mine. I'm posting someone else’s pictures. I would definitely take pictures if I could. But I don't even live in New York, I'm from IndiansUnite territory.
Oh. Well I guess that person is from 2WFC. I'm a Jersey dweller myself. :P
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Old July 28th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #9589
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Oh. Well I guess that person is from 2WFC. I'm a Jersey dweller myself. :P
Michigan, Detroit Metro area. Where there is zero skyscraper action going on anywhere. The best they could muster was a couple casinos.

And yes, the pitcures were probably taken from 2 WFC. I don't know exactly, IndiansUnite might have a better idea.

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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:34 AM   #9590
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this is da most garbage sh***** slowest building ever..dos reta*** fu**** were fast enough to destroy it but now dey fu**** cant build it taking fu***** 10 years jus to reach ground level... i hope dis pieace of sh** collapse wen it get build..son of turtles
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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:48 AM   #9591
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Michigan, Detroit Metro area. Where there is zero skyscraper action going on anywhere. The best they could muster was a couple casinos.
Hell yeah, Metro Detroit represent. He is right that we don't have any new activity, but we do have a fine collection of art deco skyscrapers.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:51 AM   #9592
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this is da most garbage sh***** slowest building ever..dos reta*** fu**** were fast enough to destroy it but now dey fu**** cant build it taking fu***** 10 years jus to reach ground level... i hope dis pieace of sh** collapse wen it get build..son of turtles
Hahahaha. You mad son?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:41 AM   #9593
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Hahahaha. You mad son?
Lol, I think someones a little upset. I honestly don't mind the garbage when its infrequent, humors the thread a little. :p

There is one thing I don't understand about the build site though. About the station in the center, are they simply going to deck over it or rebuild part/majority of it? I would assume this portion of the build is going to come into play rather soon...
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:47 AM   #9594
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Hahahaha. You mad son?
and fail grammer school?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #9595
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There is one thing I don't understand about the build site though. About the station in the center, are they simply going to deck over it or rebuild part/majority of it? I would assume this portion of the build is going to come into play rather soon...
More of the original station (much of which survived 9/11 and dates back to the original 1970's construction) is being kept than was originally planned, but a substantial amount of what we see now will be replaced. From the first quarter report:
"Take PATH Platform A and Tracks 1 & 2 Out of Service

This will facilitate completion of foundation work to support the steel columns in
the Transit Hall. This will also allow the demolition of Platform A to begin,
which will be replaced by a 10-car, ADA-compliant platform. This platform is
currently used as a surplus platform to store PATH trains during off-peak hours.
This should not affect PATH service going forward."

I know one of the big reasons for replacing the platforms is that when the current platforms were built in the 1970's, they were only built for eight cars. The new platforms will be 10 car platforms.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 02:05 AM   #9596
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I remember the report saying how they might preserve some of the original platforms in order to save on costs. But I think it's a good idea to preserve some of the platforms just because they are part of the original World Trade Center complex! Cost saving is just a bonus. I walked on those platforms and they don't seem any different from any other platforms that I walked on in NYC. Probably better if anything.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 03:07 AM   #9597
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More of the original station (much of which survived 9/11 and dates back to the original 1970's construction) is being kept than was originally planned, but a substantial amount of what we see now will be replaced. From the first quarter report:
"Take PATH Platform A and Tracks 1 & 2 Out of Service

This will facilitate completion of foundation work to support the steel columns in
the Transit Hall. This will also allow the demolition of Platform A to begin,
which will be replaced by a 10-car, ADA-compliant platform. This platform is
currently used as a surplus platform to store PATH trains during off-peak hours.
This should not affect PATH service going forward."

I know one of the big reasons for replacing the platforms is that when the current platforms were built in the 1970's, they were only built for eight cars. The new platforms will be 10 car platforms.
I'm going to assume this has made little or no progress. From what I can tell there are no visible support columns near or equal to the ground height. That is unless they are covered by the roof until needed. Also what will become of all the square footage above and around the PATH station? It seems like a lot of empty space. Finally, who controls the contract work dealing with the PATH station portion of the project?
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Old July 30th, 2009, 05:12 AM   #9598
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I'm going to assume this has made little or no progress. From what I can tell there are no visible support columns near or equal to the ground height. That is unless they are covered by the roof until needed. Also what will become of all the square footage above and around the PATH station? It seems like a lot of empty space. Finally, who controls the contract work dealing with the PATH station portion of the project?
Considering that summary was for Q2 2009 (April - June), if they haven't been done yet they're definitely behind schedule. It's hard to tell if any work has been done underneath the existing roof. The master contract for the transportation hub was recently awarded to Tishman/Turner on the 23rd. The previous construction manager, Phoenix Contractors, was dismissed after it finished the portions of the contract it had already started. The main incentive was to take advantage of the plunging prices in the industry due to the recession.

My understanding is that they will actually build the new roof over the platforms first, so the surface work can proceed for the memorial, and then build down.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 07:46 AM   #9599
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Muy buena, muy buena skyscrpaer diseños!
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Can someone please explain, what's going on in the white tent of the memorial bottom. Long life testing?
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