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Old August 9th, 2009, 11:42 PM   #9721
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Very nice. I've been reading this thread every week for a long, long time, but, I've never posted. This tomorrow is the most exciting and attractive tower under construction right now in the world. It is going to be a beautiful complex when complete. Can't wait to see it.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 03:55 AM   #9722
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we got a lift off!!! big toy in da house

if anybody know what model it is, plz let me know Looks like Manitowoc crane

Jesus, that's HUGE. Awesome.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 06:43 AM   #9723
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Any progress at all is good progress in our crappy economy. And yes, what a huge damn crane...
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Old August 10th, 2009, 07:06 AM   #9724
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I haven't been keeping up with this project lately. I've been hard at work. I don't know what the time table looks like. Whats the big red crane for?
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Old August 10th, 2009, 11:21 AM   #9725
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It should be a Manitowoc 16000. Amazing machine!
Is that supposed to be the biggest or the highest moving crane in the world according to Guinness World of Records or am I wrong? That's really something if you are constructing the most symbolic place in United States. I just hate the design of the building. It's too 90s. I am hoping they will change it one more time. I am hoping they will before it's too late.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 12:46 PM   #9726
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Is that supposed to be the biggest or the highest moving crane in the world according to Guinness World of Records or am I wrong? That's really something if you are constructing the most symbolic place in United States. I just hate the design of the building. It's too 90s. I am hoping they will change it one more time. I am hoping they will before it's too late.
It's certainly huge but, as far as I know, it's not the biggest one. Not even in the Manitowoc production range.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 01:59 PM   #9727
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that's not a moon, it's a space station!! What a monster!!

All the activity: materials, people, vehicles, traffic on such a small piece of land. Amazing
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Old August 10th, 2009, 02:15 PM   #9728
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Is that supposed to be the biggest or the highest moving crane in the world according to Guinness World of Records or am I wrong? That's really something if you are constructing the most symbolic place in United States. .
Nope. The Manitowoc 31000 lifts over 2500 tons.
The one on the site looks like a 2250 to me.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 02:26 PM   #9729
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it looks so great to see everybody gathers to make "miracle" on the earth
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Old August 10th, 2009, 02:41 PM   #9730
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Is that supposed to be the biggest or the highest moving crane in the world according to Guinness World of Records or am I wrong? That's really something if you are constructing the most symbolic place in United States. I just hate the design of the building. It's too 90s. I am hoping they will change it one more time. I am hoping they will before it's too late.
Not even close to being the biggest, even in the Manitowoc line there are quite a few bigger. Here's a link to the biggest that they make: Manitowoc 31000
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Old August 10th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #9731
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I hate to see this turn into a crane debate, but I do have a question: I saw in a previous post the red cranes can lift 400 tons, but the cranes already in the tower can only lift 64 tons? The portable, moving cranes have 6 times the capacity of the 'part of the tower' stationary models? Doesn't sound right.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #9732
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I hate to see this turn into a crane debate, but I do have a question: I saw in a previous post the red cranes can lift 400 tons, but the cranes already in the tower can only lift 64 tons? The portable, moving cranes have 6 times the capacity of the 'part of the tower' stationary models? Doesn't sound right.
It definitely is. Tower cranes don't have a lot of lifting capacity. There are several reasons for this, partly because they're basically on top of a stick that can bend and their load is their only a good bit farther away from their pivot point than that on a mobile crane. Actually the cranes being used here with 64 ton capacity are some of the largest tower cranes available.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 09:49 PM   #9733
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the two crawler cranes obviously will not be able to erect perimeter columns past their boom heights, and are not going to move upward with the tower itself. this begs the question - how will the perimeter columns be installed for the remainder (majority) of the building? The obvious answer is the tower cranes - but if the tower cranes have the capacity to erect the perimeter beams on the upper floors - why not just use them for the lower floors? are the lower floor perimer columns in much longer (therefore heavier) segments? basically, why even bother with the crawlers?
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Old August 10th, 2009, 09:51 PM   #9734
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I hate to see this turn into a crane debate, but I do have a question: I saw in a previous post the red cranes can lift 400 tons, but the cranes already in the tower can only lift 64 tons? The portable, moving cranes have 6 times the capacity of the 'part of the tower' stationary models? Doesn't sound right.
The tower cranes are also limited by the building structure they're mounted on and the distance they reach out. The amount they can lift when the load is at the tip of an almost horizontal boom is much lower than the crane's maximum capacity. The new crane probably can't go anywhere near 400 tons if it was reaching out as far as it could with only the counterweights to hold it.

The tower crane ratings are probably as as used on this project, while the new crane rating is maximum under any conditions.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 12:40 AM   #9735
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I don't want to stray too far off topic,but I've heard there is a Sept 11th Memorial concert scheduled.A band that my band does shows with sometimes is supposed to perform there.Does anyone know where the concert will be and the line-up?
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Old August 11th, 2009, 01:08 AM   #9736
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http://www.manitowoccranes.com/MCG_M...N/m1200_72.asp


1300 t M-1200 72 RINGER
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Old August 11th, 2009, 01:13 AM   #9737
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They're dismantling the bridge next to the memorial!!!
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Old August 11th, 2009, 06:01 AM   #9738
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? The crane they just installed is definitely not a ringer crane! It is a straight crawler crane, it doesn't even have Maxi lift.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 10:43 AM   #9739
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? The crane they just installed is definitely not a ringer crane! It is a straight crawler crane, it doesn't even have Maxi lift.
I wasnt talking about a crane that was installed. read last 2 pages
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Old August 11th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #9740
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I wasnt talking about a crane that was installed. read last 2 pages
I've been heavily involved in the discussion for the last two pages. What I didn't understand was why you brought up that ringer crane. It's not the type being used here nor is it even close to being the largest that Manitowoc makes so I couldn't understand why it was injected into the conversation.
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