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Old May 14th, 2007, 06:34 AM   #961
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People didn't pick Libeskind in the first place. Former Governor Pataki picked him because they were friends. With that said, I like the plan better now than I did before.
Someone should give this person a prize for being one of the few besides myself in understanding how it was picked in the first place.
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Old May 14th, 2007, 12:18 PM   #962
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Floor breakdown

* Sublevels - Garage/Retail/Transportation
* Ground Floor - Main Lobby
* 1st-19th Floors (Base) - Podium (Not Occupied on the base except for lobby)
* 20th-63rd Floors - Offices
* 64th Floor - Sky lobby
* 65th - 88th Floors - Offices
* 89th and 90th Floors - Transmission equipment
* 91st - 100th Floors - Mechanical
* 100th - 101st Floors - Restaurant
* 102nd Floor - Observation deck
* 103rd - 108th Floors - Mechanical (Unoccupied)
* Top of the Building - Observation deck Two (Proposed

I thought it wasnt gonna have a parking garage, but I guess I was wrong.

Would you write also the level in meters over the ground?

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Old May 14th, 2007, 06:47 PM   #963
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Floor breakdown

* Sublevels - Garage/Retail/Transportation
* Ground Floor - Main Lobby
* 1st-19th Floors (Base) - Podium (Not Occupied on the base except for lobby)
* 20th-63rd Floors - Offices
* 64th Floor - Sky lobby
* 65th - 88th Floors - Offices
* 89th and 90th Floors - Transmission equipment
* 91st - 100th Floors - Mechanical
* 100th - 101st Floors - Restaurant
* 102nd Floor - Observation deck
* 103rd - 108th Floors - Mechanical (Unoccupied)
* Top of the Building - Observation deck Two (Proposed)



I thought it wasnt gonna have a parking garage, but I guess I was wrong.
Where did you get this information from?
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Old May 14th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #964
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As far as I know, there's not going to be a observation deck on top, but there will be one on floor 102, which is under several mech floors. The observation floor should have been the tallest one.


ALSO, there will be no Garage/Retail space in or under the Freedom Tower.
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Old May 14th, 2007, 09:42 PM   #965
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The glass on the Freedom Tower will be made in Owatonna Minnesota, home of the Tilt-a-Whirl, soon if not already Minnesota's State Amusement Ride. It would be pretty cool to put one of those up on top in that lower circular section of the mast.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 01:24 AM   #966
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I'd go on a roller coaster up there.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #967
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I made a more accurate map of the site based on this pic:



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Old May 15th, 2007, 09:21 PM   #968
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It looks fine, but you forgot Tower 5 (130 Liberty Street) and 7.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 09:25 PM   #969
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It looks fine, but you forgot Tower 5 (130 Liberty Street) and 7.
I was confused about that. It looks like there is already something in the lot for #5. What's the deal?
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Old May 15th, 2007, 11:11 PM   #970
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turn that 'is' into 'was'. the old tower #5 is under demolition. after 9-11 it was too damaged to be occupied again and the building looked ugly anyway. so they decided to demolish it and build a new tower on that site.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 11:21 PM   #971
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Gotcha. Pic edited to add #5.

Ok, no where is #6?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 01:18 AM   #972
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Well, 6 may be the PAC (which is not designed yet), right in the middle of Tower 1 and 2. The Performing Arts Center was supposed to be designed by Frank Gehry, if I recalled correctly. I think it's on hold.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 01:51 AM   #973
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The cab of the second crane was installed. I haven't looked if the arm of the crane has been installed.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 02:43 AM   #974
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So wait, is piling complete?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 02:54 AM   #975
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And where is WTC6? is it the Freedom Tower?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 02:58 AM   #976
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No, it's 1WTC.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 03:26 AM   #977
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So wait, is piling complete?
I wouldn't be counting on that anytime soon.
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Old May 16th, 2007, 05:05 AM   #978
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turn that 'is' into 'was'. the old tower #5 is under demolition. after 9-11 it was too damaged to be occupied again and the building looked ugly anyway. so they decided to demolish it and build a new tower on that site.
That is actually the Deutsch Bank building, which was mortally wounded but did not collapse in the attack on 2001-09-11. It took a chunk of structural steel in its north side when 2 WTC collapsed - the beam assembly tore a large gash in its side and ended up impaled in it. After a few years of disputes with the insurance company, the building was finally written off and is only now being demolished.

The pre-attack 5 WTC was one of the three low-rise buildings that was located around the public plaza south and east of the 'Twins'.

(Did I say 'south'? I meant 'north' )

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Old May 16th, 2007, 08:08 AM   #979
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I wouldn't be counting on that anytime soon.
I don't get it. They erect the tower crane before piling?
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Old May 16th, 2007, 08:54 AM   #980
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Piling? I dont think any piling was necessary for this part of the site and if it was its been done. And dont listen to talb, hes just negative over the new 1WTC. He wants the old twins back etc.
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