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Old August 16th, 2009, 12:44 AM   #9881
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I wonder could it be possible to place a request to the people operating the current HD cam, to say... get another on the other side.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 02:44 AM   #9882
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I think its building momentum now, we'll be seeing it rise soon
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Old August 16th, 2009, 04:24 AM   #9883
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:18 AM   #9884
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Amazing updates!!!

I am curious about this tilted jumbo column... It looks somehow not equal as other 90' degree angle jumbo columns. I am not sure how it will get built if the columns are not equal but I will watch the process and learn from it.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:43 AM   #9885
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Amazing updates!!!

I am curious about this tilted jumbo column... It looks somehow not equal as other 90' degree angle jumbo columns. I am not sure how it will get built if the columns are not equal but I will watch the process and learn from it.
i am not sure about this but if you look at the render on the first page it looks like the bottom of the tower bulges outward then comes back in
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:50 AM   #9886
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Amazing updates!!!

I am curious about this tilted jumbo column... It looks somehow not equal as other 90' degree angle jumbo columns. I am not sure how it will get built if the columns are not equal but I will watch the process and learn from it.
The corners of the base are chamfered

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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:52 AM   #9887
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I got it now. Thanks!
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Old August 16th, 2009, 07:52 AM   #9888
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i am not sure about this but if you look at the render on the first page it looks like the bottom of the tower bulges outward then comes back in
To build on Uaarkson's post, the situation developed after the NYPD raised objections to the original proposal. Originally the triangles that make up the sides of the buildings were to extend from the roof to the ground level, and the building was to be much closer to the roads. The police felt that that proposal would have left the tower too exposed to possible future acts of terrorism. This is a part of why it's taken so long to get to this point; they pretty much had to start over from square one.

The initial revision took the original design and squished it to sit alop a square concrete base. This satisfied the NYPD security objectives but was heavily criticized for destroying the asthetics of the building. Later revisions clad the concrete base with reflective glass panels, and (I believe) David Childs came up with the idea of making the base a reflection of the building atop of it. The base is 200 feet high. The ground level lobby will have 50-foot ceilings; the remaining vertical space will be occupied by mechanical space. The line between the base and the building proper serves the same function as the surface of a body of water; the 200 feet of the base are upside-down copy of the 200 feet above.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 02:35 PM   #9889
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What is the work time there?
Are they workin' on sundays?
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Old August 16th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #9890
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What is the work time there?
Are they workin' on sundays?
There are a few workers on the site, but no, nothing major happens on Sunday.

And amazing pictures Econ Tim, thanks for the update!
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Old August 16th, 2009, 08:40 PM   #9891
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Old August 16th, 2009, 08:52 PM   #9892
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^ The 1st pic above; the plaza looks chocky. Doesn't look prettier than the original plaza.. I also see that the sides of the building is gonna looks similar to the original towers also. I can't wait to see this building half way up in construction.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:07 PM   #9893
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^ The 1st pic above; the plaza looks chocky. Doesn't look prettier than the original plaza..
Well I think they are trying to make the plaza functional and safe. I don't think pretty was really the point. The chairs and tables are an excellent idea though. They did that at the base of the Comcast Center, and, from what I saw, people seem to like the concept.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #9894
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I really love this photo because it puts to rest the complaints about them building platforms just to do a little welding. Looking at that, when they installed the columns they also installed beams connecting the columns to the steel inside the concrete core. The platforms appear to be movable ones that have been simply mounted on top temporarily for the installation.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:53 PM   #9895
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great pics ,just wondering why the tall outer steels are nice and clean and the central core steels were old and rusty looking ?
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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #9896
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I really love this photo because it puts to rest the complaints about them building platforms just to do a little welding. Looking at that, when they installed the columns they also installed beams connecting the columns to the steel inside the concrete core. The platforms appear to be movable ones that have been simply mounted on top temporarily for the installation.
Compared to having to hoist the workers and equipment with cranes those platforms are about a hundred times easier and faster. I'm sure whatever that welder was Zen referred to isn't something you carry in a backpack.

If the floor connections are like this all the way up, compared to the original buildings connections these must be at least fifty times as strong. I'd be interested to know how much this building will weigh compared to the originals.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 09:58 PM   #9897
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I really love this photo because it puts to rest the complaints about them building platforms just to do a little welding. Looking at that, when they installed the columns they also installed beams connecting the columns to the steel inside the concrete core. The platforms appear to be movable ones that have been simply mounted on top temporarily for the installation.
What building is being contructed in the background of this photo? I dont know New York well enough to know what direction that is.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 10:11 PM   #9898
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What building is being contructed in the background of this photo? I dont know New York well enough to know what direction that is.
That's east. And the under construction building is Beekman Place.

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Old August 16th, 2009, 10:16 PM   #9899
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I thought so. The unique facade isnt visible from this angle and it looks very different.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #9900
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The cladding isn't that high up yet. If you look closely, a small part of it is visible.
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