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Old December 18th, 2006, 03:26 PM   #81
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Think of the building site as your house in the middle of a very congested area of town. You honestly think 9,000 trucks/month will not hinder anything at all? Cause no disturbances to nearby occupancies? Though mathmatically, 9,000 trucks/month isn't that much... we're talking Manhattan here
9,000 trucks is only about 1 truck ever 2-3minutes, which when you consider how much traffic is already on Manhattans roads is really completly insignificant. Obviously it will make things fractionally worse, but in reality the problem is an existing one and completly independant of construction work at the World Trade Centre.
Also is the planned redevelopment going to involve any changes in the road layout to help traffic flow (one can assume there'll be an increased amount with all the extra buildings). Or is it going to remain much how it is, with a reliance on improved public transport and the reopening of the transit centre and PATHhub to cope with the extra people?
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Old December 18th, 2006, 04:26 PM   #82
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One truck every 2 or 3 minutes on major roads/highways that are designed and built to handle it is insignificant. One truck every 2 or 3 minutes in the middle of lower manhattan seems to me like it would be quite significant.

Have you ever been behind a large truck carrying a big load as it tries to maneuver through packed city streets? My experience is that one such truck can bottle things up pretty well. One such truck every 2 or 3 minutes seems like it will cause some significant congestion. Nothing that can't be dealt with, and certainly a worthwhile problem to deal with, but I'd bet it will take some planning on the part of people in the area for them to deal with, and I'll bet the congestion will be very noticable.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 09:00 PM   #83
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And the first piece of steel for the world's tallest office tower is up.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 09:16 PM   #84
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061219/..._freedom_tower

Steel column installed for WTC tower

NEW YORK - The first 25-ton steel column for the new Freedom Tower was installed Tuesday at ground zero, another milestone in prolonged efforts to build a new office tower to replace the World Trade Center.

The 31-foot high white steel column, painted with an American flag and the words "Freedom Tower," was picked up by a crane and set into place on the southern edge of the planned 1,776-foot building. Politicians and workers at the site cheered as the column was installed shortly after 11:30 a.m.

"Today the steel rises, the Freedom Tower rises from the ashes of Sept. 11, and the people of New York and the people of American can be proud," said Gov. George Pataki. A second column, about a foot taller and covered with signatures from steelworkers and politicians in Virginia, was installed a short time later.

Officials hoped to raise a third column later Tuesday.

In the next two weeks, more columns will be set around the perimeter, including two covered with signatures of Sept. 11 families, steelworkers, architects and politicians. Officials said the signature-free column that was installed Tuesday was a slightly different length than the others and was long ago scheduled to be installed first.

By next spring, builders say the jumbo steel columns will rise to street level — about 70 feet from the bottom of ground zero.

The 27 columns — among the largest made in the world — were forged in Luxembourg, then shipped to Lynchburg, Va., to be fabricated so they could be installed at the foundation. The entire tower will eventually be built with 45,000 tons of steel, builders say.

Virginia residents and steelworkers signed one of the columns earlier this month and Sept. 11 victims' relatives and first responders wrote messages on another on Sunday.

The tower has been redesigned several times; politicians lay a granite cornerstone in July 2004 to begin construction, but later had to move the building after city police said it would be vulnerable to terrorism in its location, too close to traffic. It was redesigned, the cornerstone moved off the site and construction began again this spring.

Gov.-elect Eliot Spitzer and the incoming head of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is building the tower, recently said they planned to look again at the tower's designs. Spitzer has also questioned the tower's economic viability, although he has committed to moving the governor's office there when it opens in 2011. State and federal agencies have already agreed to occupy half of the building's office space.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 09:33 PM   #85
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Old December 19th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #86
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Doesnt look like the name 'Freedom Tower' is going away anytime soon, does it?
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Old December 19th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #87
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that's fantastic
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Old December 19th, 2006, 10:25 PM   #88
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Old December 19th, 2006, 10:50 PM   #89
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A second beam has been erected too.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 10:56 PM   #90
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This one will be updated on a per-beam basis. Don't let anyone say it wasn't thoroughly documented.
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This one will be updated on a per-beam basis. Don't let anyone say it wasn't thoroughly documented.
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Old December 19th, 2006, 11:45 PM   #92
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whats with all those prongs sticking out of the signature beam?
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Old December 19th, 2006, 11:54 PM   #93
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At 1,776 feet, the Freedom Tower will eventually become the world's tallest tower. Construction is expected to be completed by the year 2011.
I wonder who is the clueless idiot telling the media that the FT will be the worlds tallest ?
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Old December 20th, 2006, 12:03 AM   #94
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And the first piece of steel for the world's tallest office tower is up.
Actually, in that picture I think you can see that the second beam is already up.

Here's another view of the second beam still connected to the crane cable.


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Old December 20th, 2006, 01:40 AM   #95
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Those beams are a lot smaller then what i was imaigining.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:14 AM   #96
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what are the beams for i know there part of the building but what part of the building, the core ?
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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:15 AM   #97
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Those beams are a lot smaller then what i was imaigining.
same here
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:38 AM   #98
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we have no way of knowing where that beam is going but its obviously going to be part of the foundation and not one of the regular floor beams they will be using.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 04:53 AM   #99
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This one will be updated on a per-beam basis. Don't let anyone say it wasn't thoroughly documented.
Pretty much.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 09:18 AM   #100
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Yes man!! It's time to rise!!
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