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Old August 29th, 2009, 07:18 PM   #10101
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Interview w/ Larry Silverstein:

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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #10102
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That video clip is just ridiculous. I bet in the yr 2013, tower 2 & 3 is still not gonna be built yet. I always tell myself, just make that side of the damn site a big ass pool for ppl to swim in during the summer and and ice skating ring like Rockefeller center during the winter. I bet ppl from different cities around the country and around the world musta forgot all about ground zero and now looking at this with "OMG"!! It's still a hole there!!! Anyway the FT looks like it coming up and might finish on time by 2012, but then again dealing with the port authority, who knows.
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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:38 PM   #10103
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Old August 29th, 2009, 11:44 PM   #10104
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wow very cool
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:11 AM   #10105
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Is it a known fact they're going to have a second crawler on the west side? Once the north crane's bumped up wouldn't the two tower cranes working together be able to handle those columns? They got the bottom ones in and they were only 5 tons lighter if I remember.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #10106
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Is it a known fact they're going to have a second crawler on the west side? Once the north crane's bumped up wouldn't the two tower cranes working together be able to handle those columns? They got the bottom ones in and they were only 5 tons lighter if I remember.
According to two people involved with the site at WiredNY, yes, a second crawler crane will arrive. The tower cranes combined cannot lift as much as the red crawler crane. I can't remember if I posted the tonnage per crane here or at SSP but I will find the post and place the information here shortly.

Here we are:

Capacity for Liebherr cranes at memorial (white/red and yellow cranes): 200 t and 250 t.
Capacity per tower crane: 64 t.
Capacity for red Manitowoc crane: 400 t.

The problem right now is that the exterior columns are 70+ tons. Sure, the tower cranes could combine their lift capacity and lift the columns, but right now that is difficult because the steel cage for the north core isn't in place. Just because the maximum load is 70 t doesn't mean they can always lift 70 t. It all depends on the location of the load in relation to the crane.

Also, since the red crane that is in place right now will eventually be used for the transportation hub, it makes sense to have another one in place on the other side of the site to assist in the construction of the tower's base once the other one hast moved onto other duties..

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Old August 30th, 2009, 03:15 AM   #10107
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i like the pics ,thanks
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Old August 30th, 2009, 05:07 AM   #10108
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That video clip is just ridiculous. I bet in the yr 2013, tower 2 & 3 is still not gonna be built yet. I always tell myself, just make that side of the damn site a big ass pool for ppl to swim in during the summer and and ice skating ring like Rockefeller center during the winter. I bet ppl from different cities around the country and around the world musta forgot all about ground zero and now looking at this with "OMG"!! It's still a hole there!!! Anyway the FT looks like it coming up and might finish on time by 2012, but then again dealing with the port authority, who knows.
Surely they have to put something there at least until they're ready to build T2 and T3? Won't matter how amazing 1 WTC is, or the memorial, or 4WTC - if there's a big dirty hole over a quarter of the site it says to the world - FAILURE!
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Old August 30th, 2009, 05:31 AM   #10109
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Old August 30th, 2009, 07:41 AM   #10110
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Oh fog, why must you cover the camera? -_-
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Old August 30th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #10111
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Those red columns as it seems in the below photo, are not about the core of WTC1, instead its for the main building?
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Old August 30th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #10112
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The red parts are for the extension (support) of the other tower crane, rise next week.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 06:53 PM   #10113
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I have updated the time-lapse videos:
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Old August 30th, 2009, 08:32 PM   #10114
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just asking about the original steel beam, where will it be used in the new tower please ?
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Old August 30th, 2009, 10:17 PM   #10115
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The original WTC column is only for the museum, for photo taking tourists and other stuff.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 02:09 AM   #10116
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WOW those beams are huge!
big cranes too, 400 ton is a lot.
also it wasn't until quite recently that I realised that tower cranes can only lift a relatively small weight compared with the crawler cranes.
as for the original steel beam, is it special in any way, or is it just a random beam taken from the rubble?
here in Christchurch there are some of the beams made into a sculpture that was opened a few years ago at the world firefighting games.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 02:42 AM   #10117
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Is it a known fact they're going to have a second crawler on the west side? Once the north crane's bumped up wouldn't the two tower cranes working together be able to handle those columns? They got the bottom ones in and they were only 5 tons lighter if I remember.
As I have said in the past, the tower cranes together can only pick 70 tons, at a 25 foot radius, on a good day. The crawler, as currently rigged, can pic over 300tons at a 120 foot radius. The tower cranes may look impressive, but they are very limited.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 02:05 PM   #10118
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:00 PM   #10119
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Interesting video, Silverstein certainly sounds dedicated to completing the buildings. He certainly sounds much more dedicated and committed than the PA does it in addition he has a good bases to say what he's saying.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:23 PM   #10120
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Their are a lot of people who criticized the architectural design of the 1WTC (Freedom tower) even Donald Trump but looking at the rendering especially the base it looks pretty good to me, maybe it will look better if it's finished.
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