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Old September 3rd, 2009, 05:14 PM   #10181
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Had Burj Dubai been constructed at this pace it would have taken about 20 years to complete. Maybe with up the time they are taking they can reconsider the design of the top and get rid of that butt-ugly hypodermic needle looking thingy........
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 07:26 PM   #10182
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Had Burj Dubai been constructed at this pace it would have taken about 20 years to complete. Maybe with up the time they are taking they can reconsider the design of the top and get rid of that butt-ugly hypodermic needle looking thingy........
Well, In Dubai they don't have a problem with ""Falling" airplanes...

They had to build a huge core due to security reasons...
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 09:32 PM   #10183
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now we are making some progress....
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 09:38 PM   #10184
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burj dubai was not built in the middle of downtown , dubai pays are also low for their construction workers, also most construction workers there are living in labour camps
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 10:31 PM   #10185
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North Core steel going up!



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Old September 3rd, 2009, 10:34 PM   #10186
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asi es los trabajadores de burj dubai la mayoria son inmigrantes que no tienen buen salario y viven en campos de trabajo
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 10:37 PM   #10187
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por lo que se ve en el render, va a quedar impresionante esta torre
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 11:02 PM   #10188
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Old September 4th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #10189
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burj dubai was not built in the middle of downtown , dubai pays are also low for their construction workers, also most construction workers there are living in labour camps
That sounds more like a reason to work faster in NY, because of higher labor costs.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 02:11 AM   #10190
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That sounds more like a reason to work faster in NY, because of higher labor costs.
Logically it does but union members jobs are very protected and it is very
unlikely they will get fired no matter what. Not much incentive to work fast even though your boss tells you to. The more hours you work the more you make!
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Old September 4th, 2009, 02:29 AM   #10191
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Nice updates!

I just love the Freedom tower's design, It'll look great in the skyline...

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Does anybody have updates of the WTC memorial?, I'd love that squared fountains.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 02:39 AM   #10192
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There's progress on the north core steel, but jeez, a handfull of steel beams a day. That's it. C'mon foremen, crack the whip.

We've been told once they get up to the regular floors we can expect a floor a week. I'll believe it when I see it.

Sorry for the trolling, some days are just frustrating.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 08:59 AM   #10193
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If you look with the cam you can see that what they're spending most of their time on is placing rebar. They have a lot of rebar to place and the kind they're using is so thick and heavy that it takes heavy equipment to move it around.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #10194
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now we are making some progress....
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Old September 4th, 2009, 02:58 PM   #10195
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Earthcam

Hey , Whats with the Earthcam now. You can't get the High Def picture anymore. Unless I'm doing something wrong. Is anyone eles having this problem? It figures right when the North core is rising too. Please let me know. Lance
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Old September 4th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #10196
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The north erecting steel already looks high enough for the beams to the perimeter columns to attach to. I wonder if they need to get it to the same stage the south core is at, or they can start putting the northeast columns up now.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 03:17 PM   #10197
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Charger - here is a great link for a high def earthcam:

http://www.earthcam.com/clients/grou...groundZero.swf

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Old September 4th, 2009, 03:21 PM   #10198
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The north erecting steel already looks high enough for the beams to the perimeter columns to attach to. I wonder if they need to get it to the same stage the south core is at, or they can start putting the northeast columns up now.
The completion of the steel frame will only take a few days, if all. After that we will probably see a second crane jump and new perimeter columns. All that could happen within the next 2-3 weeks.

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I intentionally meant the labor costs for the employer and not the wages. Seems like you misinterpreted me.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #10199
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@Msradell
I intentionally meant the labor costs for the employer and not the wages. Seems like you misinterpreted me.
I understood what you meant but I was explaining that the low paid workers in Dubai and other places like that actually have more incentive to work faster because there's a better chance they could lose their job if they don't. On the other hand the union workers in New York have no incentive to work faster. It's really a double edged sword that hurts the contractors they use union labor in two ways. They'd certainly like the workers to work faster but really have no way of making it happen.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 04:34 PM   #10200
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The incentive is that this is 1WTC. That should be enough.

When I visited the site, everyone was working very hard, no people just standing aroung watching, like on a lot of construction projects. You just cannot see that level of detail on the webcam or in most still pictures. There were a few people standing at each gate, dressed as construction workers, but more likely extra security.
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