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Old September 6th, 2009, 04:30 AM   #10221
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???it says there's 512 pages, yet the most it lets me see is 511?!?!?must be my computer?
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Old September 6th, 2009, 04:46 AM   #10222
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???it says there's 512 pages, yet the most it lets me see is 511?!?!?must be my computer?
It's some sort of glitch, all the threads have this problem. There is no pg 512 (yet).
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Old September 6th, 2009, 06:46 AM   #10223
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I've just noticed in the earthcam pic that they've taken the roof off the PATH tracks that go around the South Pool... are they preparing to re-roof these so that the rest of the steelwork can be erected for the south end of the plaza?
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Old September 6th, 2009, 08:27 PM   #10224
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I've just noticed in the earthcam pic that they've taken the roof off the PATH tracks that go around the South Pool... are they preparing to re-roof these so that the rest of the steelwork can be erected for the south end of the plaza?
Yes they are. Both the SW corner of the memorial and the N, NE section of the south pool should be finished sometime in the next few months. Initially the SW corner will only have work done during weekends.

Also once the big crane finishes the perimeter columns on the east side of 1WTC it will begin installing steel in the NE corner of the memorial and PATH station. That most likely won't start till early next year (but maybe December).
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Old September 6th, 2009, 09:07 PM   #10225
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They also started the rebar work on the western south pool wall during last week.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #10226
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Good jobs! Good luck!
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Old September 7th, 2009, 10:21 AM   #10227
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Dont be too euphoric about the recent progress, there is still a lot to do. I think we wont see any significant heigth changes until all the lobby columns are put up and plaza level is done. But I could be mistaken.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 02:26 AM   #10228
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this doesnt sound good
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Old September 8th, 2009, 02:33 AM   #10229
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Oh god. Please no more of that "finished by 2018" bullshit. That will never happen.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 06:57 AM   #10230
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We'll hear more about the construction progress again as we approach September 11.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:13 PM   #10231
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Old September 8th, 2009, 08:49 PM   #10232
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the WTC is a prime example of why New York is loosing is top spot in the world to other cities like London. Why is it so hard to construct Skyscrapers today in a city like New York who had dozens of skyscrapers being built at the same time in periods like the 1930's. This people make such a big deal for every skyscraper built today in this city. This, slows downs growth and makes urban-renewal even more difficult. If New York doesnt get to work and starts to flourish again with new constructions then i dont see a bright future for this city i love.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 09:33 PM   #10233
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the WTC is a prime example of why New York is loosing is top spot in the world to other cities like London. Why is it so hard to construct Skyscrapers today in a city like New York who had dozens of skyscrapers being built at the same time in periods like the 1930's. This people make such a big deal for every skyscraper built today in this city. This, slows downs growth and makes urban-renewal even more difficult. If New York doesnt get to work and starts to flourish again with new constructions then i dont see a bright future for this city i love.
NYC could never build another skyscraper and it would still remain the most important city in the US and one of the most important in the world.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 09:48 PM   #10234
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exellent job, good photos
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Old September 8th, 2009, 09:51 PM   #10235
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the WTC is a prime example of why New York is loosing is top spot in the world to other cities like London. Why is it so hard to construct Skyscrapers today in a city like New York who had dozens of skyscrapers being built at the same time in periods like the 1930's. This people make such a big deal for every skyscraper built today in this city. This, slows downs growth and makes urban-renewal even more difficult. If New York doesnt get to work and starts to flourish again with new constructions then i dont see a bright future for this city i love.
There are still lots of skyscrapers being built or planned in NY, but not supertalls.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 10:30 PM   #10236
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the WTC is a prime example of why New York is loosing is top spot in the world to other cities like London. Why is it so hard to construct Skyscrapers today in a city like New York who had dozens of skyscrapers being built at the same time in periods like the 1930's. This people make such a big deal for every skyscraper built today in this city. This, slows downs growth and makes urban-renewal even more difficult. If New York doesnt get to work and starts to flourish again with new constructions then i dont see a bright future for this city i love.
London has nothing to do with skyscrapers. It doesn't have even a single supertall building right now- only a single one in early construction stages.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:33 PM   #10237
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the WTC is a prime example of why New York is loosing is top spot in the world to other cities like London. Why is it so hard to construct Skyscrapers today in a city like New York who had dozens of skyscrapers being built at the same time in periods like the 1930's. This people make such a big deal for every skyscraper built today in this city. This, slows downs growth and makes urban-renewal even more difficult. If New York doesnt get to work and starts to flourish again with new constructions then i dont see a bright future for this city i love.
First of all.............London has a lot of catching up to do to NYC, height wise. Also, a building loses it's cost effectiveness when you build at supertalll heights, which is why you don't see as many as we would like to here in the USA.

As far as the slow construction progress.............what's holding it up is/was 9/11 bureaucracy on what is appropriate to build and who is in charge/cleanup/investigation/construction, and the RECESSION is a big reason. Remember many parties are involved, The Port Authority, City, Developer, US Government etc. Certain buildings on site are having trouble to get financed because of this recession which is also effecting the construction schedule due to the various connections from the other areas of the site to 1WTC.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:49 PM   #10238
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But in the 30's it seems constructions boomed because of the recession. Many iconic structures were built that time. Why this time everything slowed down, including construction? Just wondering.


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First of all.............London has a lot of catching up to do to NYC, height wise. Also, a building loses it's cost effectiveness when you build at supertalll heights, which is why you don't see as many as we would like to here in the USA.

As far as the slow construction progress.............what's holding it up is/was 9/11 bureaucracy on what is appropriate to build and who is in charge/cleanup/investigation/construction, and the RECESSION is a big reason. Remember many parties are involved, The Port Authority, City, Developer, US Government etc. Certain buildings on site are having trouble to get financed because of this recession which is also effecting the construction schedule due to the various connections from the other areas of the site to 1WTC.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 11:54 PM   #10239
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Well, if there was a big boom after the recession in the 30's, you should come back in a few years after the recent recession is over.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 01:00 AM   #10240
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the WTC is a prime example of why New York is loosing is top spot in the world to other cities like London. Why is it so hard to construct Skyscrapers today in a city like New York who had dozens of skyscrapers being built at the same time in periods like the 1930's. This people make such a big deal for every skyscraper built today in this city. This, slows downs growth and makes urban-renewal even more difficult. If New York doesnt get to work and starts to flourish again with new constructions then i dont see a bright future for this city i love.
New York has plenty of modern buildings. New York is MUCH more confined than London is. You try putting a massive cluster of skyscrapers in an island 21km long and 4km wide, with a few areas of that strong enough to sustain tall buildings.

And also, there was way less taller buildings in the 1930's than today, not too mention historical buildings in the area PLUS the lifeline (PATH and a subway) of New York right under the site. And think of it this way; you have your medieval and Renaissance buildings in London, we have our art deco and internationalist buildings in Manhattan.

By the way, for proof of more modern buildings, check Midtown and even in the close proximity of ground zero. You'll find at least three buildings under construction near the World Trade Center site, plus tons of newer highrises and skyscrapers in midtown.
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