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Old May 19th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #1041
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There are no official heights or renderings for any of those projects yet. Like with this project, we'll have to wait. As far as I know, nothing is approved.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 12:48 AM   #1042
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its just about an opinion as saying "Jessica Alba is ugly" or "Porsches are pieces of crap."
Perception of beauty is subjetive, so why do you think Jessica Alba couldn´t be ugly to anyone???, please let people express their opinions and if you don´t like it don´t make a big deal of it, everyone thinks different. Saludos.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 01:01 AM   #1043
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two points:

There are opinions that, even though could be valid as any other opinions, are just borderline stupid (i.e. Jessica Alba is ugly / NY skyline is ugly / Da Vinci sucks as a painter)

There are also opinions that shouldn't be said in particular places, or say the opinions and not get flak for it. Really, coming to a New York thread and proclaiming Dubai is better? You are bound to get some offended remarks, whether you like it or not!
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Old May 19th, 2007, 01:10 AM   #1044
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Geez. Relax buddies! I say something negative or neutral about USA and there's 15 replies all telling me to shut up. Yes there's a lot more skyscrapers in NYC than in Dubai, but the difference is that in Dubai the towers look much better (probably cuz they're newer but anyway). And there's not room for new towers to get build in the big cities of USA. Sure Americans have much longer skyscraper history but I believe the towers of Dubai will be as durable as in the States. Don't get me wrong, I would still visit USA rather than Dubai.

Is it possible that u are just envious to Dubai just because it will have the highest tower and is the fastest growing city?
^The reason there are 15 replies telling you to shut up is because this thread is for the construction of 1WTC and that building only. This thread isn't a debate on who has better looking towers, higher density, etc. And no, most really don't care that much, we care about as much as other people in this world care about new American buildings. Don't get me wrong, I love most of the buildings going up in Dubai, but this simply isn't the place to discuss that.

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calm down!! this is his opinion, please accept this!
^ I accept his opinion as many in this thread do. But once again you must realize, Dubai is NOT 1WTC so any comment about anything in Dubai, the BD, as well as the CS, Trump Chicago, or any other new American Skyscraper really has no place in this thread.

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definitely not! i know you americans hate it when anyone says something against the USA. but believe me: the USA aren't that "special" as the most americans believe
^ Oh please, we are no more proud than any other country. It's not our fault that our patriotism is shown on TV all the time and you misconstrew it. What I and many others hate is when people come onto a thread about the construction of 1 building in 1 city and say something that does not involve said construction of said building, especially when there are countless threads dedicated to the topics some people want to talk about.

Since some really seem to have a problem understanding where to discuss/agrue/b*tch about not having the twins, or how the BD is the tallest, or how there are billions of projects under construction in Dubai, or the Chicago Spire being the tallest in America, I'll help you out:
For all you Burj Dubai fanatics
For those that want the Twins back and won't face reality
For those that still think saying you don't like the FT will get you the Twins
Chicago Spire
Don't want to talk about BD? But want to talk about some other Dubai Skyscraper? Here's the place for you!
Now that those who come onto this thread to talk about bullcrap that has no connection to the construction of Freedom Tower/1WTC has links to threads that actually want to hear it, maybe we can get back to what this thread topic was created for.

It's so very nice to see those two cranes there, ready to get to work! GO 1WTC!
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Old May 19th, 2007, 01:19 AM   #1045
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Well put mudvayneimn!
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Old May 19th, 2007, 01:25 AM   #1046
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its just about an opinion as saying "Jessica Alba is ugly" or "Porsches are pieces of crap."
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two points:

There are opinions that, even though could be valid as any other opinions, are just borderline stupid (i.e. Jessica Alba is ugly / NY skyline is ugly / Da Vinci sucks as a painter)

There are also opinions that shouldn't be said in particular places, or say the opinions and not get flak for it. Really, coming to a New York thread and proclaiming Dubai is better? You are bound to get some offended remarks, whether you like it or not!
Well Da Vinci (in my opinion) doesn´t suck as a painter, others may think he did, but what I agree with you is that this is the wrong thread to talk abut Dubai and compare with NY, that´s obviously out of topic, saludos.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 01:57 AM   #1047
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Had enough off this crappy bullshit!

Stop with city VS city bash fests..... ~!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot compare NY with Dubai.........

They are both completly different cities who`s beauty and style are BOTH extraordinary!!

The neo WTC complex is a good complex.... It is topquality!!!

The Burj Dubai complex is a good complex.... Topquality!!!

BOTH cities jump out in their own way!!

NY is beautifull because off its old brilliant monuments like the Chrysler building and ESB.... And its sphere and history!!!!

Dubai is beautifull because off its Grandistic Dare off inovation like the palm islands and the BD....


NY has a rich history...
Dubai is making history...

Both cities are nice....
stop this useless bashfest please because you destroy both their appeal by doing this...

i have done my word........
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Old May 19th, 2007, 02:13 AM   #1048
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I'm glad someone spoke up about this city bashing and comparing crap. Very well put might I add.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 02:36 AM   #1049
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Hey this is really going well!
construction site looks clean, beams rising...

in the words of juelz santana (of NYC).."he's mooovin agaain"
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Old May 19th, 2007, 04:04 AM   #1050
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EDIT: Forget about my post.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 04:10 AM   #1051
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^The reason there are 15 replies telling you to shut up is because this thread is for the construction of 1WTC and that building only. This thread isn't a debate on who has better looking towers, higher density, etc. And no, most really don't care that much, we care about as much as other people in this world care about new American buildings. Don't get me wrong, I love most of the buildings going up in Dubai, but this simply isn't the place to discuss that.


^ I accept his opinion as many in this thread do. But once again you must realize, Dubai is NOT 1WTC so any comment about anything in Dubai, the BD, as well as the CS, Trump Chicago, or any other new American Skyscraper really has no place in this thread.


^ Oh please, we are no more proud than any other country. It's not our fault that our patriotism is shown on TV all the time and you misconstrew it. What I and many others hate is when people come onto a thread about the construction of 1 building in 1 city and say something that does not involve said construction of said building, especially when there are countless threads dedicated to the topics some people want to talk about.

Since some really seem to have a problem understanding where to discuss/agrue/b*tch about not having the twins, or how the BD is the tallest, or how there are billions of projects under construction in Dubai, or the Chicago Spire being the tallest in America, I'll help you out:
For all you Burj Dubai fanatics
For those that want the Twins back and won't face reality
For those that still think saying you don't like the FT will get you the Twins
Chicago Spire
Don't want to talk about BD? But want to talk about some other Dubai Skyscraper? Here's the place for you!
Now that those who come onto this thread to talk about bullcrap that has no connection to the construction of Freedom Tower/1WTC has links to threads that actually want to hear it, maybe we can get back to what this thread topic was created for.

It's so very nice to see those two cranes there, ready to get to work! GO 1WTC!
Thankyou.

The fact that people come in here to bring up Dubai, and Bd and start this shit all over again shouldn't even be done in here. What happened to the automatic briggings for doing this?
Also I wonder why they don't bring up Dubai in the other american forums: Just nyc....
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Old May 19th, 2007, 04:13 AM   #1052
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Agreed. I noticed that. I think Dubaians felt threatened by NYC or USA for some reasons.

Alright. Please get back to the topic.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 10:23 AM   #1053
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definitely not! i know you americans hate it when anyone says something against the USA. but believe me: the USA aren't that "special" as the most americans believe
Thank you, I believe that's totally true. It wasn't an offence to u Americans, so don't take it as it would've been one. (and I don't think they would ban me for stating my opinion).

Let's get to the subject then. I still like NY and the 1WTC. The design fits to New York allthough it could've been bolder or more unique. I still think they should build twin towers there. It would not only honor the original WTC towers (and the victims) but also look better and more impressive. It would look nice if they built two of these 1WTCs side by side as the original were. After that there would still probably be room for one skyscraper which could be the 2WTC tower design-like tower.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 10:33 AM   #1054
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Heh, you people are such babies, seriously. All I see on here is bitching and moaning about nationality and the Burj Dubai and who's better than whom... READ THE THREAD TITLE. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT 1WTC!!! Not about America or Dubai or you or me or whatever the hell else you people come up with. This is a thread about 1 WTC and its construction progress. SHUT UP AND GET ON TOPIC.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 10:35 AM   #1055
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Old May 19th, 2007, 11:35 AM   #1056
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Any Supertall is not only business but policy too.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 12:27 PM   #1057
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Very long time passed and I see nothing but I hope this year the tower finaly will begin to rise
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Old May 19th, 2007, 05:11 PM   #1058
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dont they usually make some framework of the tower and then put the crane?
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Old May 19th, 2007, 08:29 PM   #1059
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I think about that too. I suspect that they decided to install cranes first then start the construction right away just make things easier.
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Old May 19th, 2007, 09:13 PM   #1060
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any new info on the site....wats the best source of info on the net...is it still the WTC web or NY state site?
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