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Old October 15th, 2009, 11:40 AM   #10981
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Where is the steel being fabricated?
If I properly remember some Arcelor Mittal plant in Luxembourg or Holland. Not sure though. Would like somebody to confirm that.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 12:10 PM   #10982
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If I properly remember some Arcelor Mittal plant in Luxembourg or Holland. Not sure though. Would like somebody to confirm that.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:04 PM   #10983
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Does the core will be built in concrete?

Because, I cannot figure out how the forms will be put in place with the steel structure in the way.
They probably have adapted forms for that kind of situation...The forms could have holes or cuted parts for those beams...
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Old October 15th, 2009, 07:39 PM   #10984
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Another column was added today too on the other side, apparently. 19/24 up now!

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Old October 15th, 2009, 10:25 PM   #10985
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You mean 18/24. So far there have been 17 columns up. Every perimiter column section is 6 columns, this column will finish the south-west section, the north-east and south-east sections are complete so it is 18/24 columns.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #10986
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Yes it does, but I was thinking the same thing. Forming is going to be a real pain and take an awful lot more time with all the steel in the way.
Not even the forms, which have to be transported from one floor to another, but also the rebar work will be a pain.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 11:41 PM   #10987
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You mean 18/24. So far there have been 17 columns up. Every perimiter column section is 6 columns, this column will finish the south-west section, the north-east and south-east sections are complete so it is 18/24 columns.
NE and SE corners are done. SW corner has 5/6 installed, NW has 2/6. 5 to go.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 11:52 PM   #10988
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so, when are we gonna see the piles and piles of steel and concrete go up making the normal, 4m tall, office floors?
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Old October 15th, 2009, 11:58 PM   #10989
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mid to end of next year,maybe.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 12:16 AM   #10990
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Construction question: core and perimeter?

I may have read somewhere that the building itself would be constructed primarily with reinforced concrete? Seeing the early pictures here it appears the core itself will be concrete and the perimeter hardened steel? Or... when thy get to certain floors above the grand lobby areas will it be concrete all the way up?

Any insight is always appreciated!

LOVE the pics! Thanks to everyone who takes the time to make their way to the construction site and snap pictures. Not an easy task as the area around ground zero is a zoo half the time with all of the congestion...

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Old October 16th, 2009, 12:17 AM   #10991
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mid to end of next year,maybe.
I don't think it'll take nearly that long. Part of the base (ie, the eastern half) is already up to the 4th floor. The rest will probably catch up to the fourth floor by the end of the year at the latest, at which point half of the base will be done. This will be five months of work on the base. So, add another 5 months and the other half of the base should be done by the end of May. (Though, we all remember the long delays and the fact that for a few months only one crane was at work... so probably the second half should go much quicker... perhaps done by the end of March.)

Once the base is done, the office floors will start going up much quicker (a floor a week). So, I don't think it'll be the middle to end of next year before we start seeing office floors going up.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 03:26 AM   #10992
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I don't think it'll take nearly that long. Part of the base (ie, the eastern half) is already up to the 4th floor. The rest will probably catch up to the fourth floor by the end of the year at the latest, at which point half of the base will be done. This will be five months of work on the base. So, add another 5 months and the other half of the base should be done by the end of May. (Though, we all remember the long delays and the fact that for a few months only one crane was at work... so probably the second half should go much quicker... perhaps done by the end of March.)

Once the base is done, the office floors will start going up much quicker (a floor a week). So, I don't think it'll be the middle to end of next year before we start seeing office floors going up.
i think this bad boy will be 20 stories up by the end of next year maybe further, at the rate it is going, its started on 3 floors in a matter of weeks, thats real progress
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Old October 16th, 2009, 05:47 AM   #10993
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i think this bad boy will be 20 stories up by the end of next year maybe further, at the rate it is going, its started on 3 floors in a matter of weeks, thats real progress
20 stories by the end of NEXT year? By the end of next year it'll be up to floor 59. By the end of September 2011, it'll be up to floor 96.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:32 AM   #10994
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20 stories by the end of NEXT year? By the end of next year it'll be up to floor 59. By the end of September 2011, it'll be up to floor 96.
i like the way u think rk and i actually agree, i was kinda stepping up what the people before me said lol
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Old October 16th, 2009, 07:05 AM   #10995
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I would've thought by now everyone would not be too optimistic about the schedule of this tower. It's taken 3.5 long years to get this far. We don't know what 2010 will bring. I think 1WTC has a shot at being up to the top of the 186' podium by the end of 1Q '10. But I'm not putting that in the bank. Their is still work on the plaza to do and Fulton street. Not to mention that the Vessey Street bridge extension will be starting in the next couple of months, that could siphon off workers for that project.

I'm also way to pessimistic at the PA's claims of one office floor per week. Two weeks a floor seems more realistic. 40-50 stories high by the end of 2010 is my guess. Beekman Place and 123 Washington can rise a floor every few days, but their square footage is a fraction of 1WTC (and those developments are under control of private developers, not a government agency).

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Old October 16th, 2009, 02:36 PM   #10996
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20 stories by the end of NEXT year? By the end of next year it'll be up to floor 59. By the end of September 2011, it'll be up to floor 96.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 08:30 PM   #10997
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Floor 96 by the end of September 2011 (end of Q3) is from the Port Authority's report from last October. Although other markers stated in the report have fallen short, the markers for 1WTC have been right on track, if not AHEAD of schedule. It said that the floor slabs would be significantly up to grade by the end of September 2009. That's been right on track. It also said that the steel erection would begin by the end of Q4 2009. That began in August. If things continue at this pace, I wouldn't be surprised if the building tops out by the end of Q3 2011... perhaps even in time for the 10th anniversary.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 09:33 PM   #10998
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WTC1 is coming along, glad to see the site is always busy as hell.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 10:44 PM   #10999
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Old October 17th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #11000
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Looks like they put the entire north side entrance up.

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