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Old October 21st, 2009, 11:41 PM   #11101
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It's supposed to be topped out toward the end of 2011, so your estimate is about right, maybe a little more. With the "floor a weeK" schedule, you could expect about 52 floors in a year, and the tower in reality is only 86 floors (correct me if I am wrong, please).

Now that I think about it, I think there was something a few pages back about it being up to the 58th floor by Q4 2010.

Hope that helped. ^_^;
I counted 92 floors on the prints, including partial mechanical floors. I'll recheck that when I get home, the full size prints are in storage here at work. I have a half scale set at home.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 11:45 PM   #11102
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Thank you=] I believe the tower is 102 floors with about 86 floors of office space, the rest of the floors will be mechanical and two floors dedicated to observation and a restaurant. I just wanna see pics of that new column that went up today!
There are 69 floors of office space (20 thru 88) restaurant is 2 floors, observation is one floor with a mezzanine.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 12:09 AM   #11103
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That would be a neat trick seeing as how the east side is only up to the 4th floor.
dosent the first floor start at the bottom?
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 12:10 AM   #11104
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I counted 92 floors on the prints, including partial mechanical floors. I'll recheck that when I get home, the full size prints are in storage here at work. I have a half scale set at home.
i read somewhere the tower is 102 floors
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 12:36 AM   #11105
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dosent the first floor start at the bottom?
The first floor is the lobby, yes. But you are counting the third floor mezzanine as the forth floor. The current top of steel is the forth floor.

I read somewhere that it had 108 floors, that doesn't make it so.


Ok, with all the mechanical floors etc. there are 94 floors between the lobby and 104 mezzanine, inclusive.

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Old October 22nd, 2009, 01:21 AM   #11106
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@Britney Spears, the tower does not have 108 actual floors, it is just numbered like that for novelty sake, the tower has 86 real floors (69 for offices) Zensteel is right.


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There are 69 floors of office space (20 thru 88) restaurant is 2 floors, observation is one floor with a mezzanine.
yea, the 89th and 90th aren't mechanical though, they have windows like all of the office floors. i don't know what goes there, i've heard broadcasting floors but i don't think those normally have windows, supposedly they want to scrap the plan of having those floors be broadcast floors who knows why...
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 01:38 AM   #11107
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speaking of mechanical floors, how many mec floors is in the design? and will they be spaced throughout the building?
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 02:00 AM   #11108
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If you were to define a mechanical floor as "a floor where 1) the service elevators can stop at and 2) where more than 75% of the floor is taken up by equipment for the MEP systems of the building" then the answer is 11. Floors 2 through 6 in the base and floors 91 through 93 and 103 and 104 and the roof, floor 105.

If you were to expand that to "any floor where a major part of the floor is equipment for the MEP systems of the building" then the answer is 21. ( this does not include any level above the roof)

If you were to count every floor where part of the floor area is taken up by MEP equipment than one would have to count every floor. (fan rooms, water tanks etc.)

Also, the end of the MTVA deal does NOT mean there well be no broadcast equipment in the tower, only that there well be no TV broadcast equipment.

PS: many of the mechanical floors have windows.

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Old October 22nd, 2009, 03:13 AM   #11109
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Zen, i know this has been asked before, but whats your relation to the construction? Engineer, contractor? Hands on?
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 03:21 AM   #11110
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I counted 92 floors on the prints, including partial mechanical floors. I'll recheck that when I get home, the full size prints are in storage here at work. I have a half scale set at home.
Very cool...I'd love to have a look at those!
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 03:28 AM   #11111
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My company made unsuccessful bids for some of the work at Tower One and the Memorial. I also know several people directly involved in the construction of same.

TXSkyWatcher all you have to do is sign this 27 page non-disclosure agreement and then you can have at it.
Somewhere in the fine print I get your house, daughters, car, first born and all your bank accounts.

PS: I added the last five items to the agreement I signed.

Would you settle for my flicker photo stream. (there are several photos of the prints inside)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

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Old October 22nd, 2009, 03:51 AM   #11112
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If you were to define a mechanical floor as "a floor where 1) the service elevators can stop at and 2) where more than 75% of the floor is taken up by equipment for the MEP systems of the building" then the answer is 11. Floors 2 through 6 in the base and floors 91 through 93 and 103 and 104 and the roof, floor 105.
That would be my definition of a mechanical floor. So thanks for the good answer. you know your stuff, and as you have figured out now I don't hehe.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 05:22 AM   #11113
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 05:27 AM   #11114
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those three pronged steel beams are very similar to the ones on the original wtc, can someone show me where this is in the design? will it be seen when the building is complete?
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 05:29 AM   #11115
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nevermind i found them in the render of the base
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:38 AM   #11116
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Thanks for the pics NYCD. The east side of the building is really coming along great! Maybe now with all this visible progress it'll finally shut up the rebuild the original twin towers group. Sure, haven't heard from them in awhile.

On another note, Bovis Lend Lease just got the final permits to restart demolishing the Deutsch Bank Building starting Nov 2. They've given a pretty conservative new timetable. They're just guaranteeing it'll be gone by Dec 31, 2010. Obviously it could be gone sometime in the middle of next year. But then again, anything can happen... let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 08:33 AM   #11117
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The weather is so great on the last two pics. What's the boxy building on the right hand side? It seems to be at approximately the same height as Goldman Sacks, but I never followed the progress of it.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 08:45 AM   #11118
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7WTC, replacing the one that collapsed on 9/11.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 06:24 PM   #11119
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 07:05 PM   #11120
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wow i don't know if i should be happy or still piss at the poor at earthcam..haha..i think NYCD and other members that live or work around that area are more reliable than earthcam...very happy at the progress
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