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Old October 26th, 2009, 12:33 AM   #11181
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Old October 26th, 2009, 12:34 AM   #11182
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Can anyone please answer this? What IS the South Mezzanine? I know where it's located and I hear about it all the time, but I'm still not sure even what it actually is. The word mezzanine implies that it'll be above the PATH tracks, so... does that mean it'll be a location where PATH train passengers can exit there (as opposed to the main PATH mezzanine) and be able to exit up near Liberty and Greenwich? Seems kinda far south if this were the case (I didn't know the trains even stopped in the corner that far south). I'm just really confused about this, can someone explain???
I've wondered as well. Here is part of one of the answers in the PA's recent Q&A.

"... The steel to complete the south pool is being built on top of the south mezzanine of the PATH Station, which was installed as part of the Hub project. "


Also, the webcams show that new steel was added in the south pool section today. Yeah!!

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Old October 26th, 2009, 01:11 AM   #11183
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I visited the site yesterday (no photos, it was miserable out and I didn't want to get my camera wet). And I don't think these pictures really show how BIG this thing really is. Can't wait to see this thing past the base.

and with that, are they replacing the crawler crane on the east side or was that for the memorial? I think I misread.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 03:18 AM   #11184
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Can anyone please answer this? What IS the South Mezzanine? I know where it's located and I hear about it all the time, but I'm still not sure even what it actually is. The word mezzanine implies that it'll be above the PATH tracks, so... does that mean it'll be a location where PATH train passengers can exit there (as opposed to the main PATH mezzanine) and be able to exit up near Liberty and Greenwich? Seems kinda far south if this were the case (I didn't know the trains even stopped in the corner that far south). I'm just really confused about this, can someone explain???

from the PA's WTC status report:

North/South Connections: Sub-grade pedestrian connectors will extend north from the Transit Hall to provide access to Vesey Street, a separate connection to the E, A/C, and 2/3 lines and Tower 2. Sub-grade pedestrian connectors will extend south from the Transit Hall to provide access to Cortlandt Way, the corner of Liberty and Church Streets, separate connections to the southbound R/W and northbound #1 lines, and Towers 3 and 4.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 03:43 AM   #11185
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I visited the site yesterday (no photos, it was miserable out and I didn't want to get my camera wet). And I don't think these pictures really show how BIG this thing really is. Can't wait to see this thing past the base.
Well the original Twin Towers weren't exactly what you would call a pushover. Freedom Tower is designed with very similar specs. This may not be the tallest supertall in the world, but it's still the fattest. The only tower that comes close is the ICC in Hong Kong, but I think Freedom still wins out in depth.

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Old October 26th, 2009, 04:29 AM   #11186
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Well the original Twin Towers weren't exactly what you would call a pushover. Freedom Tower is designed with very similar specs. This may not be the tallest supertall in the world, but it's still the fattest. The only tower that comes close is the ICC in Hong Kong, but I think Freedom still wins out in depth.
1WTC has some bulk. But it's not the "fattest". 1WTC is 200'x200' at the base. Willis (formerly Sears) Tower is 225'x225' at its base. I'm sure Abraj Al-Bait has some hefty dimensions as well. Willis Tower also beats out in floor space as well. 3.8 million sq ft vs. 2.6 million for 1WTC.

FYI, ICC's biggest floor space is just under 39,000 sq ft.
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1WTC has some bulk. But it's not the "fattest". 1WTC is 200'x200' at the base. Willis (formerly Sears) Tower is 225'x225' at its base. I'm sure Abraj Al-Bait has some hefty dimensions as well. Willis Tower also beats out in floor space as well. 3.8 million sq ft vs. 2.6 million for 1WTC.
Abraj Al-Bait is the only one that may beat it, although the top is a clock tower. For all intensive purposes, 1WTC should be the fattest at its top floor over any other supertall.

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Old October 26th, 2009, 05:23 AM   #11188
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1WTC has some bulk. But it's not the "fattest". 1WTC is 200'x200' at the base. Sears Tower is 225'x225' at its base. I'm sure Abraj Al-Bait has some hefty dimensions as well. Sears Tower also beats out in floor space as well. 3.8 million sq ft vs. 2.6 million for 1WTC.

FYI, ICC's biggest floor space is just under 39,000 sq ft.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 05:31 AM   #11189
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Abraj Albait is probably the fattest supertall in the world.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 05:43 AM   #11190
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Abraj Albait is probably the fattest supertall in the world.
To a point, according to this diagram 1WTC still takes the cake at its highest floor.

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Old October 26th, 2009, 05:57 AM   #11191
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1WTC has some bulk. But it's not the "fattest". 1WTC is 200'x200' at the base. Willis (formerly Sears) Tower is 225'x225' at its base. I'm sure Abraj Al-Bait has some hefty dimensions as well. Willis Tower also beats out in floor space as well. 3.8 million sq ft vs. 2.6 million for 1WTC.

FYI, ICC's biggest floor space is just under 39,000 sq ft.
albait hotel tower is massive for a 500m skyscraper.
up to 400m its 78m wide/ 250ft.then 65m/215ft wide at 450m roof.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 07:47 AM   #11192
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Sorry for the delay guys but here are pictures taken on Sunday 10/26 (beautiful day btw!), I'm also posting pictures of 123 Washington and the Beekman tower in their own designated threads

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Old October 26th, 2009, 07:54 AM   #11193
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Old October 26th, 2009, 08:01 AM   #11194
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Hey, better late than never. You have some stunning shots in there! Thank you!
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Old October 26th, 2009, 08:10 AM   #11195
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Excellent photos, thanks!
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Old October 26th, 2009, 08:28 AM   #11197
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Old October 26th, 2009, 08:40 AM   #11198
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Very striking jobsite with the red beams and the red cranes.
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Old October 26th, 2009, 09:12 AM   #11199
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Port to Develop Plan B for WTC ( oh noess, not a plan B)

The Port Authority of New York and Jersey’s board voted Thursday to allocate $20 million toward developing an alternate plan that would allow World Trade Center construction to go on without Silverstein Properties Inc. if necessary. The board’s action was in response to Gov. David Paterson’s order last August that the Port and its consultants come up with such a plan.

According to public documents, the revised design for the WTC Hub is being devised "in light of the continued uncertainty with respect to the schedule for the development of Towers 2, 3 and 4," the three Ground Zero towers planned by SPI. The plan would allow construction of the WTC’s public components to move forward while not impeding SPI’s ability to eventually commence work on its towers. Tower 4 is currently under way.

Biggest of the allocations is $6.5 million to Downtown Design Partnership, a joint venture of DMJM+Harris and STV, to modify "certain elements" of the WTC Hub’s transit hall and oculus. If implemented, these changes would not affect the "signature elements" of the Santiago Calatrava design for the WTC PATH terminal, according to board minutes. Other modifications would affect the streetscapes, the underground Vehicular Underground Center and the loading dock and power distribution facilities at One World Trade Center.

To help ensure that the National September 11 Memorial & Museum opens in time for the 10th Anniversary of 9/11, the PANYNJ board authorized a $140-million project for final design and construction of Ground Zero’s street and sidewalk finishes, trees, paving, bollards and streetscape furniture. It also entails additional design work on Liberty Park, a new park that will span the length of Liberty Street between Church and West streets. Thursday’s vote did not name a contractor or contractors for the project.

In a statement, PANYNJ executive director Chris Ward says, "One year ago, we gave the public a roadmap on how we would get the site’s public projects on track and asked them to hold us accountable. We take that responsibility very seriously and are continuing to take the necessary steps to ensure that our projects move forward."

The board also awarded more than $340 million in contracts to replace the signals on the PATH system connecting Midtown and Downtown with New Jersey. Currently, the system, which last year transported nearly 75 million riders, uses "antiquated" mechanical train controls, according to a PANYNJ release. The computerized equipment that would replace these controls is part of a $3.3-billion modernization program for the PATH system.

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Old October 26th, 2009, 04:33 PM   #11200
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2 more beams..

My man, I think I'm talkin' in the name of everyone here when I'm sayin' that you have a big respect from us...Thanks a lot for those pics...
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