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Old October 31st, 2009, 08:13 AM   #11261
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1 WTC is only 100 feet above the ground.
It's higher than that, but I'll grant you it's probably not quite over 200 feet yet.
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Delays in infrastructure are clearly delaying construction. Have you not noticed that 4 WTC did not get the second crane it was supposed to, or how construction has slowed at the site. Why build something that would be done and lack infrastructure. He would be wasting his money.
Construction of 4WTC, including cranes, is Silverstein Properties's responsibility.
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Further the PA has been more than late on its side of the bargain. They are pretty much behind on every project aside from the memorial. While there have obviously been some complications in the construction process at the site, it seems clear to me from the actions of the PA that their only goal is to wrest control from Silverstein. Their actions have not been in good faith to say the least.
That there have been significant delays is undeniable. The existing agreement laid out penalties for delays on the PANYNJ's obligations, and the PA has paid Silverstein Properties those penalties. Its obligation was to turn over the three sites in build-ready condition. The PA's delays in doing so were significant, but it paid the penalty fees for those delays and has now done so.

I don't think think the PA wants to wrest control from Silverstein; the whole dispute resolves around the fact that the PA can't afford to finance any additional development at the site. It'd be perfectly fine with the agency if Silverstein keeps control of those three sites, even if nothing gets built until 2030, as long as the agency doesn't have to pay for it. The foundation work will get completed, by the PA if necessary, so the transit hub can be built.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 08:13 AM   #11262
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I hate the PA's argument that it doesn't want to pay for "speculative office space". That's precisely what 1WTC is.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 08:27 AM   #11263
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i really donīt wanna be evil but this is really the slowest construction site on earth! compared to this they built a whole new city in china or at least hundreds of new skyscrapers in dubai - and donīt tell me itīs because of the very, very special security on the site! itīs a shame for the US and of course for new york.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:03 PM   #11264
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The foundation is the major work in this project that is taking much of the time.As soon as that is done the main construction will speed up.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:27 PM   #11265
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What is that blue staff beside the tower?
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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:33 PM   #11266
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looks like earthcam got blown by the wind again.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:34 PM   #11267
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What is that blue staff beside the tower?
Waterproofing material for the Fulton Street...
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Old October 31st, 2009, 01:34 PM   #11268
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No idea, but give the hideous colour it's probably something that will be covered.

EDIT: Question has been answered while I was writing above post.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 02:09 PM   #11269
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they been pouring something next to north core all morning, any idea? Is it the a section right next to a crawler?
Yes, the concrete was poured on the north side of the crawler...
And the beam is up there too...So one more beam left...
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Old October 31st, 2009, 03:07 PM   #11270
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grrrrr the stupid HD cam is being stupid again!?!?!?!
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Old October 31st, 2009, 03:25 PM   #11271
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Lets hope they are going to fix it faster than last time...
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Old October 31st, 2009, 06:01 PM   #11272
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i really donīt wanna be evil but this is really the slowest construction site on earth! compared to this they built a whole new city in china or at least hundreds of new skyscrapers in dubai - and donīt tell me itīs because of the very, very special security on the site! itīs a shame for the US and of course for new york.
Dubai is the kitschy capital of the world and I'd be willing to bet that the construction standards there are far lower than they are at the WTC. I wouldn't go to a Dubai thread and call them out on it but you brought it here.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 06:10 PM   #11273
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i really donīt wanna be evil but this is really the slowest construction site on earth! compared to this they built a whole new city in china or at least hundreds of new skyscrapers in Dubai - and donīt tell me itīs because of the very, very special security on the site! itīs a shame for the US and of course for new york.
Don't any of you 'slow progress' guys read the thread? Do you not remember that over 2700 people died on this site in 2001? Do you not know how many levels of destruction there was and what had to be rebuilt?

Of course it's slow. And no you CANNOT compare this to Dubai or any other country's construction pace. Think man!! It's common sense why this is taking forever to this point.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:27 PM   #11274
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:30 PM   #11275
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I know it's a joke, but I like how Ryugyong is almost a linear line when it was an empty concrete shell for years.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:32 PM   #11276
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Bullshit diagram ...
The progress is visible at the WTC 1.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 09:18 PM   #11277
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damn HD cam, now it's gonna take another 4 weeks to fix it, this blows anyone want to tell me how earthcam staying in business?

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Old October 31st, 2009, 11:16 PM   #11278
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It's not down, it's just tilted at a stupid angle. It'll be fixed as soon as someone goes up on the roof and fixes it.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 11:29 PM   #11279
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Bullshit diagram ...
The progress is visible at the WTC 1.
True!

- Pentominium is rather slow and ground work is still unfinished!
- Sky Tree should be the fastest.
- Ryungyang Hotel is slower than WTC1
- Foundations of The Shard and Shanghai Tower are still unfinished.
- And why the hell is the WTC 1 chart declining? It should skyrocket at the end, if it were real!
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Old November 1st, 2009, 12:39 AM   #11280
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True!

- Pentominium is rather slow and ground work is still unfinished!
- Sky Tree should be the fastest.
- Ryungyang Hotel is slower than WTC1
- Foundations of The Shard and Shanghai Tower are still unfinished.
- And why the hell is the WTC 1 chart declining? It should skyrocket at the end, if it were real!
It's just meant as a joke. I don't understand why some people take it so personal. Get over it. 1WTC construction is amongst the slowest in the world. We know the reasons why. So everyone just get over it and enjoy the very slow ride.

We've got another four long years ahead of us.
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