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Old November 2nd, 2009, 12:03 AM   #11301
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I can remember travelling to this place back in April of 2002, mere months after the Towers fell. It feels like yesterday...
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 12:06 AM   #11302
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Hope silverstein dosent destory this one hey?
Silverstein holding the lease on the WTC site had nothing to do with 9/11. Get serious or get lost.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 12:16 AM   #11303
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It'd be perfectly fine with the agency if Silverstein keeps control of those three sites, even if nothing gets built until 2030, as long as the agency doesn't have to pay for it. The foundation work will get completed, by the PA if necessary, so the transit hub can be built.
If you read back in the thread, you will read clearly, that the PA wants Silverstein to keep to the original timeline. If not they want the rest of site back from Silverstein. So no, the PA does care if Silverstein only builds podiums and keeps it like that until 2030.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 04:03 AM   #11304
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GreenwichBoy, Wired New York, Nov. 1st! The final cross beam is in!



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Old November 2nd, 2009, 06:31 AM   #11305
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Sorry if this is a really dumb question but how high is the freedom tower now?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 07:46 AM   #11306
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Sorry if this is a really dumb question but how high is the freedom tower now?
The steel is up to 105 feet.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:33 AM   #11307
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The steel is up to 105 feet.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 04:47 PM   #11308
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Freakin HD Earthcam is pointing at dirt, again. I guess having a bracket strong enough to hold it in place is beyond thier capability. It was almost time to move it anyway, as the tower grows I would like to see a camera pointing at the under construction levels, not the base. Does anyone know of a camera that is planned to do this?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 05:27 PM   #11309
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Something kind of special happening today, the newest Navy ship was commissioned, which was built with steel from the Twin Towers. Fittingly, the ship is named the USS New York.

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21-gun salute for ship built with 9/11 steel






NEW YORK - The new Navy assault ship USS New York, built with World Trade Center steel, arrived in its namesake city Monday with a 21-gun salute near the site of the 2001 terrorist attack.

First responders, families of Sept. 11 victims and the public gathered Monday at a waterfront viewing area, where they could see the crew standing at attention along the deck of the battleship gray vessel.

The big ship paused. Then the shots were fired, with a cracking sound, in three bursts.

The bow of the $1 billion ship, built in Louisiana, contains about 7.5 tons of steel from the fallen towers.

"It's a transformation ... from something really twisted and ugly," said Rosaleen Tallon, who lost her firefighter brother, Sean, on 9/11. "I'm proud that our military is using that steel."

Tallon said her brother, who was also was a Marine, would have been proud.

JoAnn Atlas, of Howells, N.Y., who lost her husband, fire Lt. Gregg Atlas, draped a flag-themed banner along the fence. The names of emergency workers who died were written on the red stripes.

"We have to remember. It's a way to honor them," she said.

‘Something else can come of it’
Members of the public included Nancy DiGiacomo, who came from Huntington, N.Y., with her husband, 9-year-old son, mother and sister.

"I just thought it was important to see" the transformation of the tragedy's wreckage, said DiGiacomo. "From that, something else can come of it."

Lt. Cmdr. Colette Murphy, a Navy spokeswoman, said she was excited for those serving on board to see the city's "awe-inspiring" welcome.

Of the 361 sailors serving aboard the ship, around 13 percent are from New York state, which is higher than would normally be the case, Murphy said. There were many requests from Navy personnel to serve on the ship, which will carry some 250 Marines.

After the ground zero stop, the ship — escorted by about two dozen tugboats and other vessels — headed up the Hudson River toward the George Washington Bridge. After a U-turn there, it was to head south to Pier 88. An official commissioning ceremony is scheduled for Saturday.

The New York will remain in the city through Veteran's Day and then head to Norfolk, Va., for about a year of crew training and exercises, Murphy said.

The ship is 684 feet long and can carry as many as 800 Marines. Its flight deck can handle helicopters and the MV-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft.

Long line of ‘New Yorks’
It was scheduled to be built before the terrorist attacks. About a year later, the announcement came that the ship would bear the name New York to honor the city, state, and those who died.

It's the latest in a line of Navy ships to bear that name. The others included a Spanish-American War-era cruiser, a battleship that served in World Wars I and II and a nuclear submarine retired from the fleet in 1997.

The ship is technically known as a San Antonio-class amphibious dock vessel. Four vessels in that class are in service, the USS San Antonio, USS New Orleans, USS Mesa Verde and USS Green Bay. Four others are being built. Of those, two also have been named in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks.

The USS Arlington was named to honor the attack on the Pentagon. The USS Somerset was named after the county in Pennsylvania where United Airlines flight 93 crashed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33582397...news-military/


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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:17 PM   #11310
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This is really nice. Is there any other place where steel from Twin Towers is used?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:39 PM   #11311
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Freakin HD Earthcam is pointing at dirt, again. I guess having a bracket strong enough to hold it in place is beyond thier capability. It was almost time to move it anyway, as the tower grows I would like to see a camera pointing at the under construction levels, not the base. Does anyone know of a camera that is planned to do this?

Im kind of diggin the intense focus on the H&M station demo.. gives a fresh perspective.. hopefully NOT for long though..

As to your question.. The Earthcam is a National 9-11 Memorial project so that is and likely will be the "focus" of the cam pointing.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:13 PM   #11312
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This is really nice. Is there any other place where steel from Twin Towers is used?
Some of the forked steel from the original WTC facade is going to be on display in the memorial.

Aside from the ship I don't know of any other use.

Went to the site today. Its looking very great! Unfortunate that we may never see the other great towers planned for the space.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:37 PM   #11313
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:58 PM   #11314
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1WTC has some bulk. But it's not the "fattest". 1WTC is 200'x200' at the base. Willis (formerly Sears) Tower is 225'x225' at its base. I'm sure Abraj Al-Bait has some hefty dimensions as well. Willis Tower also beats out in floor space as well. 3.8 million sq ft vs. 2.6 million for 1WTC.

FYI, ICC's biggest floor space is just under 39,000 sq ft.
No, the Sears Tower has 4.56 million sq. ft., with 108 floors.

Each of the old WTC towers had 4.3 million sq ft., with 110 floors. Those buildings held the world record for the most floors until the day they were destroyed.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:03 PM   #11315
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No, the Sears Tower has 4.56 million sq. ft., with 108 floors.

Each of the old WTC towers had 4.3 million sq ft., with 110 floors. Those buildings held the world record for the most floors until the day they were destroyed.
You're correct. I was quoting Sears Tower's rentable space (which is 3.8 million).
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:35 PM   #11316
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Unfortunate that we may never see the other great towers planned for the space.
WTF are you talking about?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:53 PM   #11317
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Each of the old WTC towers had 4.3 million sq ft., with 110 floors. Those buildings held the world record for the most floors until the day they were destroyed.
And they would have held that record (since October 1970) until February 2007. This is, for over 36 years!

What an amazing mark for the old Twins!
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:53 PM   #11318
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WTF are you talking about?
I think he is talking about WTC2 and WTC3.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:59 PM   #11319
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YES!!!! now that everything is put together on the bottom it should shoot up quickly right!? does anyone think we will be 200 or 300 feet up by the end of this year maybe
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I think he is talking about WTC2 and WTC3.
Yes, but he's presuming those towers won't be built in our lifetime, which is BS.
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