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Old February 8th, 2010, 02:59 AM   #12901
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It's so frustrating watching this tower grow at a snails pace, I was in NYC 6 months ago and it's not changed that much since, anyway with the base almost finished hopefully it will rise a lot quicker, and surprise me when I come over in May.
We have the Shard U/C in London, and it's rise from basement to almost the same height as this in under a month!!
You are either blind or trolling.

I'd also like to see some strength comparisons between the Shard and Tower One. Some of those connections on The Shard's exterior columns look pretty weak, and what grade is the concrete?
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Old February 8th, 2010, 03:13 AM   #12902
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well at least still any progress....
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Old February 8th, 2010, 07:16 AM   #12903
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After seeing the before and after shots, its actually quite remarkable the amount of progress that's been made since September. The base is probably the most complicated steelwork in the whole building.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 07:44 AM   #12904
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It's so frustrating watching this tower grow at a snails pace, I was in NYC 6 months ago and it's not changed that much since, anyway with the base almost finished hopefully it will rise a lot quicker, and surprise me when I come over in May.
We have the Shard U/C in London, and it's rise from basement to almost the same height as this in under a month!!
well, I think that the hardest part has been finished.. I guess that now they are going to go faster, don't you?
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Old February 8th, 2010, 10:30 AM   #12905
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There is a truck ready to unload one of the '170 ton' nodes on the east side right now.
Amazing a truck can haul that much !
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Old February 8th, 2010, 02:14 PM   #12906
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Old February 8th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #12907
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There are a lot of wheels on that truck. If it truly weighs 170 tons, and the max of a normal 18 wheeler is 80 tons, then double the wheels should distribute the weight almost the same. I can only count about 24 on the trucks in that picture. I thought the weight limit was way lower in Manhattan due to all the underground stuff.

The final east side node is ready to install this morning.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #12908
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You are either blind or trolling.
Only those who don't think post this message....I think they are all trying to be on as many ignore lists as they can be!
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Old February 8th, 2010, 03:59 PM   #12909
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You are either blind or trolling.

I'd also like to see some strength comparisons between the Shard and Tower One. Some of those connections on The Shard's exterior columns look pretty weak, and what grade is the concrete?
Meh,

I am not even thinking about comparing the 2 buildings, They are totally different structures, and don't misunderstand me it's not about London is better than NYC, I think Tower 1 is as good for NYC as the Shard is for London, in fact everytime I am in NYC I make a point of staying at the milleum Hilton with WTC facing room , just so that I watch the construction.

I only wish they'd have rebuilt the original Twin Towers, they were as much a part of New York as Big Ben is to London.

Having looked at the photo's from Sept 2009, it has progressed quite a lot, it's just a bit misleading because it hasn't gone up in height too much, but anyway should be going up rapidly now the complex base is done.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 08:04 PM   #12910
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There are a lot of wheels on that truck. If it truly weighs 170 tons, and the max of a normal 18 wheeler is 80 tons, then double the wheels should distribute the weight almost the same. I can only count about 24 on the trucks in that picture. I thought the weight limit was way lower in Manhattan due to all the underground stuff.

The final east side node is ready to install this morning.
The max for a normal 18 wheeler is 40 tons, including the tractor and trailer. Each trailer axle can only take about 9 tons. Any more than that and streets and bridges couldn't take the load per wheel. One connector was delivered on a three axle trailer/three rear axle tractor combo , meaning the connector couldn't weigh more than about 50 tons.
That 175 ton comment was just another reporter using numbers he didn't understand.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 08:40 PM   #12911
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It's so frustrating watching this tower grow at a snails pace, I was in NYC 6 months ago and it's not changed that much since, anyway with the base almost finished hopefully it will rise a lot quicker, and surprise me when I come over in May.
We have the Shard U/C in London, and it's rise from basement to almost the same height as this in under a month!!
I was down there four months ago and I live in this city. And I can tell you for a fact that alot of work has been done. Not to put you out there but I don't believe you, when you say you were down there sorry. Because had you been down there, you would have seen its grown by 100 feet. And there's red steel all over which wasn't the case half a year ago, the last time you claim you been here.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 12:53 AM   #12912
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:34 AM   #12913
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This floor almost done so its taking about 2 weeks to get it finish. I'll wait to visit it when its taller then the shortest building near it.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:47 AM   #12914
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I was down there four months ago and I live in this city. And I can tell you for a fact that alot of work has been done. Not to put you out there but I don't believe you, when you say you were down there sorry. Because had you been down there, you would have seen its grown by 100 feet. And there's red steel all over which wasn't the case half a year ago, the last time you claim you been here.
That there is progress is undeniable but the speed of the construction is debatable.
I heared not so long ago that they were aiming for a floor in a week or two, but reaching the top of the base has taken more time than that.
Perhaps the construction will speed up as they will begin with the 'normal' office floors, who knows.
Looking with some criticism at the wtc site is not that bad, you just need make sure that it doesn't become blind trolling.
Anyway, the most important thing is the twin towers memorial, that needs to be done on schedule!
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Old February 9th, 2010, 02:50 AM   #12915
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That there is progress is undeniable but the speed of the construction is debatable.
I heared not so long ago that they were aiming for a floor in a week or two, but reaching the top of the base has taken more time than that.
Perhaps the construction will speed up as they will begin with the 'normal' office floors, who knows.
Looking with some criticism at the wtc site is not that bad, you just need make sure that it doesn't become blind trolling.
Anyway, the most important thing is the twin towers memorial, that needs to be done on schedule!
I wouldn't call the current speed debatable. It's been moving quite fast in recent months. The 1 floor per week statement had nothing to do with the base, which, according to the Port Authority, is supposed to be done during the first quarter of 2010. We're pretty much right on schedule now.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:33 AM   #12916
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looks the traffic management its not disturb by WTC construction activity....
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:48 AM   #12917
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Picture by Morrongiello, 2-8-10.

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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:23 AM   #12918
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Would that be the floor deck for the 20th floor?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:43 AM   #12919
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Would that be the floor deck for the 20th floor?
Yes it is.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:46 AM   #12920
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That there is progress is undeniable but the speed of the construction is debatable.
I heared not so long ago that they were aiming for a floor in a week or two, but reaching the top of the base has taken more time than that.
Perhaps the construction will speed up as they will begin with the 'normal' office floors, who knows.
Looking with some criticism at the wtc site is not that bad, you just need make sure that it doesn't become blind trolling.
Anyway, the most important thing is the twin towers memorial, that needs to be done on schedule!
Yeah they said nothings change in 6 months and we all that isn't correct.
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