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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:50 AM   #12921
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they have installed all 3 nodes on the east side of the building. yay
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:02 PM   #12922
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This looks great,Freedom Tower Is powering along.Whilst SHARD in London is a Beautiful building and a fine addition to the London Skyline,you cannot compar these two they each have their own uniqeness.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:54 PM   #12923
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Looks like the wtc1 will get nubs for neighbors.

It's looking more and more that the performing arts center won't be built and tower 2 and 3 will both only be 6 story nubs which will be converted to retail space.

So in other words, our beloved ground zero will be converted into a very expensive strip mall.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #12924
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And the concrete core?

Normally, for obvious reasons, the concrete core is erected before the steel structure. So, I think they will complete the core in the base before to go further. Someone has a clue about this?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 02:43 PM   #12925
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I'd think that since the concrete in the core can't go any higher than the lowest part of the crane structure it would always have to lag the erecting steel by a few stories. And so far, the outer steel has been going up as soon as the erecting steel for that level was done.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 02:58 PM   #12926
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It is amazing that the Shard is going up at a extremely fast rate. Also the Tokyo Sky Tree is almost a supertall after 6 months! But this isn't a who is the fastest contest, is it? I think 1WTC is so much stronger (not going to debate, just pictures) and also check out the Pentamonium core rebar...

Shard (scroll to the last picture on this page)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...418897&page=95

1WTC (third from the bottom)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...19362&page=516

The Pentamonium (first picture)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...451708&page=93
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:00 PM   #12927
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Normally, for obvious reasons, the concrete core is erected before the steel structure. So, I think they will complete the core in the base before to go further. Someone has a clue about this?
You're thinking of the slipforming process which was perfected in the 1980s. That process is ideal for less complex construction that requires little more than a hastily poured concrete service core and steel framing. This tower is more complex and has redundancies designed into it that you won't find in an ordinary tall. I think that there has to be variegated coreplates that disallow dragging the same form up as the framing slowly rises below.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:46 PM   #12928
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that is so incredibly dumb. embarrassing. why'd they make the renders and all that if they wernt even gona be able to afford them?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:50 PM   #12929
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Wernt even gona? Now THAT'S embarrassing!
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Old February 9th, 2010, 05:55 PM   #12930
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Wernt even gona? Now THAT'S embarrassing!
i know. it is embarassing that they were not going to be able to afford to build these particular highrises.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 06:33 PM   #12931
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It's looking more and more that the performing arts center won't be built and tower 2 and 3 will both only be 6 story nubs which will be converted to retail space.

So in other words, our beloved ground zero will be converted into a very expensive strip mall.
source? do you have some inside information we don't? or is it just rumors?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 08:55 PM   #12932
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they have installed all 3 nodes on the east side of the building. yay
Looking good! We'll get to see that floor finished soon with the steel supports, sheeting, and the unique corners on this floor.

I also just noticed the lift on the south side of the building that has probably been there at least a week or so.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 09:23 PM   #12933
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Theirs no news about it, since it still in court and the case is still up in the air. Silverstein hasn't giving up. And why are people talking about tokyo sky tree here that isn't a skyscraper so it going to get built much faster.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 09:27 PM   #12934
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It is amazing that the Shard is going up at a extremely fast rate. Also the Tokyo Sky Tree is almost a supertall after 6 months! But this isn't a who is the fastest contest, is it? I think 1WTC is so much stronger (not going to debate, just pictures) and also check out the Pentamonium core rebar...

Shard (scroll to the last picture on this page)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...418897&page=95

1WTC (third from the bottom)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...19362&page=516

The Pentamonium (first picture)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...451708&page=93
Faster... doesn't mean better... and after 9/11 ... you sure wan't a better construction than the twin towers... so ... wait...
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Old February 9th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #12935
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Theirs no news about it, since it still in court and the case is still up in the air. Silverstein hasn't giving up. And why are people talking about tokyo sky tree here that isn't a skyscraper so it going to get built much faster.
it's a very tense situation right now, in the next weeks the future of the WTC will be revealed. there are a lot of rumors spreading around, most of them are BS, but i'm afraid of the ones which prove to be true. i'm going to search the WNY forum a bit, maybe there are some more reliable news...
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #12936
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These are not the "175 ton nodes" mentioned in the press release. These puppies only weigh about 35 tons.

The big nodes are at the corners, are about 90 feet high and come in two parts.

The one on the right.

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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:57 AM   #12937
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it's a very tense situation right now, in the next weeks the future of the WTC will be revealed. there are a lot of rumors spreading around, most of them are BS, but i'm afraid of the ones which prove to be true. i'm going to search the WNY forum a bit, maybe there are some more reliable news...
I'm to really worried about that as long as they finish this building I can see it from jersey.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:00 AM   #12938
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I wouldn't worry too much, a major contract is to be awarded by the end of the month (or early March) rendering most of the negative stuff moot.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:53 AM   #12939
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I wouldn't worry too much, a major contract is to be awarded by the end of the month (or early March) rendering most of the negative stuff moot.
What does that mean? A contract for what? The port authority can't do anything unless the court agrees to it.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 02:13 AM   #12940
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You assume too much.

The PA controls the entire site except the Silverstein towers.

I refer to the Transit Hub.

One would be mistaken to assume it's just a pretty building above grade. It is probably the single most important (and most impressive) part of the WTC rebuilding, and it is going forward.

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