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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #13021
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Nice picture yaar can you post more pictures?
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Old February 17th, 2010, 08:25 AM   #13022
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Where's the 4Q 2009 Quarterly Report? It should have been released last week.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 11:02 AM   #13023
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Also waiting for it, they used to publish it 5-6 weeks after the quarter ended.. and even this was quite late.
Looking forward to new and detailed information about the coming progress and more background knowledge about what they already have achieved.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #13024
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1Q 2010 is already half over and no report. What a joke.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:23 PM   #13025
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They finally released the first model of a design for the Performing Arts Center next to 1WTC, and all I can say is... wtf?



That is the ugliest building I have ever seen. The trees going up the sides and on top of it definitely have to go... this isn't a mountain, it's a building. It's also way taller than it needs to be. The main performance floor has to be the top floor since you can't have any columns throughout the audience, and even though we should expect a very tall ceiling here, I would say no more than 50-70 feet. Even if you need the entire first floor devoted to space for dressing rooms, recitals, storage, management offices, or whatever, just add another 15 feet to the overall height. Basically for it to function properly, it only needs to be about half the height of 1WTC's base. If you look at this design, parts of it are twice the height of the base. About 400 feet tall. It would block the view of WTC7 by more than half, basically cutting it off from the rest of the site.

And yes, I know this is a very early design and even 1WTC and the museum pavillion went through major redesigns over the years. I'm just sayin'...
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #13026
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I don't think it is ugly. It is very different and unique. I am sure it will be redesigned since it is first model of a design.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:31 PM   #13027
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That's how all of Frank Gehry's plans start out. He starts with boxes and geometric shapes to determine the interior spaces. Once that is finished he works on the exterior. We're only seeing the general shape of the building. The finished product will look FAR different. Take a look at his portfolio of projects. This guy will design something amazing.

The sad thing is we probably won't see it finished for another 10 years.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 07:39 PM   #13028
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I dont think is ugly either, i like it.
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Old February 17th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #13029
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After looking at some of Gehry's past buildings, I do admit that the guy is a great architect. I especially like his Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles. Hopefully the completed Performing Arts Center will look more like this...

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Old February 17th, 2010, 09:08 PM   #13030
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I don't think it's ugly either. and I heard they're trying to build it across the street since there's no tower 5 anymore. And I like the Guggenheim much better then the pic above
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Old February 17th, 2010, 10:02 PM   #13031
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After looking at some of Gehry's past buildings, I do admit that the guy is a great architect. I especially like his Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles. Hopefully the completed Performing Arts Center will look more like this...
Just bouncing back on your message. Frank Gehry's a great architect indeed, here's another original building(IMO) by him currently U/C in Paris:
"Fondation Louis Vuitton pour la Création" aka "The Cloud"(height: 40m, length :150m)
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Back on topic. WTC1's progress is amazing despite the weather conditions(so much snow...), I'm particularly impressed by those massive red beams being installed.Is the first construction phase nearly completed or not?
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Old February 18th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #13032
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After looking at some of Gehry's past buildings, I do admit that the guy is a great architect. I especially like his Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles. Hopefully the completed Performing Arts Center will look more like this...

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Old February 18th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #13033
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I'm not really a Gehry fan. I like the Pritzker Pavillion in Chicago and Beekman Tower in New York, but the rest isn't all that appealing. It kind of looks interesting, but the lack of functionality behind it doesn't endear me much. Most of his buildings also seem to contrast in a bad way to the surroundings. We'll see, perhaps he'll come through for us.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 05:15 AM   #13034
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Most of Gehry's works are abortions. Beekman is the only good thing he's ever done.

But I thought this thread was about 1WTC...?
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Old February 18th, 2010, 06:29 AM   #13035
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Just a little thing I wanted to throw out here:

My late great uncle was friends with frank gehry for many years. In fact, the last 20 years or so of his life were possible because of gehry. You see, my uncle had a heart problem. He told gehry about it and gehrys advice was for my unlce to get a heart transplant. My uncle went and got it, and for 20 long years he was living, because of that heart he died though last year at an age close to 80 I believe.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 07:31 PM   #13036
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Just a little thing I wanted to throw out here:

My late great uncle was friends with frank gehry for many years. In fact, the last 20 years or so of his life were possible because of gehry. You see, my uncle had a heart problem. He told gehry about it and gehrys advice was for my unlce to get a heart transplant. My uncle went and got it, and for 20 long years he was living, because of that heart he died though last year at an age close to 80 I believe.
What does that story have to do with 1WTC?
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Old February 18th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #13037
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They have installed one of the connecting nodes in the northeast corner of the building. Hopefully they'll put the southeast one up so they can start on the main floors soon.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 07:34 PM   #13038
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Thanks mindgoessnap, on topic info!

Does anyone know if the office floors steel will be red during construction like the base?
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Old February 19th, 2010, 01:04 AM   #13039
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Probably just the columns and spandrel beams, the rest well get spray on fireproofing so they well be unpainted.

By the way the spray on fireproofing to be used is almost like shotcrete.
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Old February 19th, 2010, 02:03 AM   #13040
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