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Old February 21st, 2010, 12:45 AM   #13081
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how much will all the buildings on site amount to eventually?
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Old February 21st, 2010, 02:55 AM   #13082
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Old February 21st, 2010, 03:03 AM   #13083
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I guess he is asking for timings :S
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Old February 21st, 2010, 04:56 AM   #13084
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how much will all the buildings on site amount to eventually?
A little over 14 million square feet of office space. About 800 thousand square feet more than what was destroyed on 9/11/2001.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 05:03 AM   #13085
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maybe he's asking about the cost.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 05:37 AM   #13086
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A little over 14 million square feet of office space. About 800 thousand square feet more than what was destroyed on 9/11/2001.
You sure? I tried adding up the square footage for all 6 office towers but I kept getting conflicting numbers for square footage in each tower (different websites, even reliable ones like wtc.com and wtcprogress.com, give different numbers). Still, even going with the highest numbers for each tower I still come up with there being a few hundred thousand square feet less than was present before 9/11.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 09:31 AM   #13087
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The only circumstance where something other than the existing plan would be ok were if 2 and 3 weren't built but instead of them a Freedom Tower 2 is instead!
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Old February 21st, 2010, 09:51 PM   #13088
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Totally agree there. 2 Freedom towers is a great idea. Could be a modern replacement to the twin towers.
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Old February 21st, 2010, 11:20 PM   #13089
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I remember someone added a second freedom tower to one of the renders, and it actually looked pretty good, i was surprised how good it looked actually, a very worthy replacement still, what we are getting now, is also more than good enough.

It is just sad that the freedom tower won't be looked as a symbol of the US economical power or power over-all"""", but as a tribute to what happened and americans willing to overcome the tragedy and rebuild, so what i'm trying to say with all this is that the US it's still the most powerfull country arround and a symbol to represent that, is needed, the twin towers were that and it is the reason they were attacked.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 01:43 AM   #13090
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In my opinion a second Tower One would be a cruel reminder of what was.

Remember the past, live in the present and build the future.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 02:00 AM   #13091
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^ yeah I don't feel that way. There's twin towers all over the city. Not to long ago there was plans for twin towers in mid town. I'll be happy because I really like this building. And the base shouldn't take as long with no train under it.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 02:57 AM   #13092
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I just watched a Documentary on this and they said that it will be at least 10-20 years before the whole thing is finished. And the memorial that is might open next year will quickly close, due to "so called" Construction, it seems to be a tug of war between the Port Authority who owns the site & the state of New Jersey / New York City who fund the PA jointly. It disgusts me as a person who witnessed the attacks that this how slow it takes to rebuilding considering in the same time frame , Jersey City built an entire Skyscraper / Highrise Skyline. And this is one of the reasons the NJ Gold Coast is slowy taking NYC business and profiting form it. Although i'm for that , its sad in a way.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 03:02 AM   #13093
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Having watched the 60 minutes piece on the WTC I have concluded that they are biased and slanted, 21st century yellow journalism.

I saw 2 or 3 seconds of Tower One, and a conscious effort to ignore the progress of Towers One and Four and the Memorial.

They did make several valid points about politics and bureaucracy and totally ignored all the progress.

Ask two questions, who owns CBS and what is there agenda ?

The answer is an entrainment company, and profit. They never let little things like facts get in the way of sales.

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Old February 22nd, 2010, 04:30 AM   #13094
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They build office tower all over New York. Company that move to NJ do so because they can no longer afford to stay NYC. But alot of people don't want to work in NJ because let face it it isn't New York. I know alot of people who quit there jobs because they move to Jersey.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 05:31 AM   #13095
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They build office tower all over New York. Company that move to NJ do so because they can no longer afford to stay NYC. But alot of people don't want to work in NJ because let face it it isn't New York. I know alot of people who quit there jobs because they move to Jersey.
Thats not true , the taxes are less here and Jersey City and Newark are becoming New York city absorbers also Bloomberg has strong ties with the Mayors of both cities. Jersey City is = to Brooklyn and alot ppl would agree why me on that. Newark is like some parts of the Bronx , its trying and in some neighborhoods is coming back still needs alot of work. You can't ignore those facts.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 06:26 AM   #13096
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I thought this was pretty cool. Google Earth now has a 3D model of 1WTC U/C.


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Old February 22nd, 2010, 08:52 AM   #13097
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Having watched the 60 minutes piece on the WTC I have concluded that they are biased and slanted, 21st century yellow journalism.

I saw 2 or 3 seconds of Tower One, and a conscious effort to ignore the progress of Towers One and Four and the Memorial.
Absolutely. The package was also very slanted toward Silverstein's point of view. No mention that the projects that aren't moving forward are Silverstein's responsibility and that the projects that are moving forward are the Port Authority's responsibility. Only one sentence explaining why towers 2 through 4 aren't moving forward.

Mainly, though, this came across as a piece that started from a premise -- that nothing had been accomplished since 9/11 -- and pieced together the facts to satisfy it. The progress doesn't look all that impressive for eight and a half years worth of work, but if you compare where the site was a year ago to where it is now the progress is very impressive. Most of the problems described in the 60 Minutes package have since been solved.

There are only two real problems facing the site right now: The commercial real estate market doesn't exist to justify financing Silverstein's towers, and the LMDC has made a spectacular mess of the Deutsch Bank building deconstruction. Until the Deutsch Bank is demolished, work can't really progress on the Vehicle Security Center. The Vehicle Security Center is in turn needed for many of the other components of the site. Almost all of the Port Authority's delays are driven by LMDC's failure to remove the Deutsch Bank building.
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 10:34 AM   #13098
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wow, the 3D model is awesome
hopefully they will update it during the construction process!
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 11:07 AM   #13099
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I thought this was pretty cool. Google Earth now has a 3D model of 1WTC U/C.
That looks so cool. Glad to see this moving fast now. New York looks really cool on Google Earth... London, not so much...lol
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 02:21 PM   #13100
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This tower is it stronger than WTC towers were before ?
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