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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #13401
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what are you chatting about? loool
im sure people are over the twin towers lol its just the deaths people may not be over!
I wish that were true, but there is an entire group of people out there who actually believe that they can influence Silverstein and the PA to destroy and remove what has already been built at the site in order to make way for these abortions:

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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #13402
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what are you chatting about? loool
im sure people are over the twin towers lol its just the deaths people may not be over!
There are a large number of people who can't separate the two.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #13403
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1960's architecture isn't going to work in 2010's. Wishing I could have seen the original towers. I like the design of the site as it is now. They need to go overtime on this bitch.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #13404
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maybe the people that want it rebuilt are under some cazy notion it will all be better and everything would be forgotten, well sorry something that big just doesnt go away
i doubt they want that because it would be extremely disrespectful to all the people who lost their lifes and the people who lost their love ones, but if that is what they want then they are selfishly unfortfull in my opinion.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:40 PM   #13405
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Original Site wasn't built all at once...
1 WTC: 1966–1972
2 WTC: 1966–1973
3 WTC: 1980-1981
4, 5, & 6 WTC: 1975-1979
7 WTC: 1985-1987
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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:43 PM   #13406
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Original Site wasn't built all at once...
1 WTC: 1966–1972
2 WTC: 1966–1973
3 WTC: 1980-1981
4, 5, & 6 WTC: 1975-1979
7 WTC: 1985-1987
So they built Wtc 4 5 & 6 before 3?
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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:00 AM   #13407
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looks like it acording to iamxeddiex but i dont no for sure but it would all depend on the funding at the time for example
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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #13408
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Number 3 was built after 4,5 and 6. #3 was the hotel built next to #2 south of #1.

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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:14 AM   #13409
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The plaza building probably weren't named 4,5 and 6 WTC at the time. I don't know..or maybe 3 WTC was in the original plans but they decided to build it later for some reason
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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #13410
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according to Wikipedia...

They are building WTC 4 before 2 and 3.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #13411
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#3 was built after 4,5 and 6 due to being privately funded. #7 was not in the origonal WTC plan.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #13412
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The court better rule on the site regarding construction, I think we've had our fair share of bickering by now. Tower 3 needs to be built.

Great to see Freedom coming along!
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Old March 14th, 2010, 12:19 AM   #13413
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That explains it. Although I find 3 and 7 WTC to be different from the rest of the complex itself..
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Old March 14th, 2010, 01:50 AM   #13414
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Well according to The associated press Silverstien and TPA are dragging it on some more despite the deadline
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NEW YORK — Both sides negotiating a new completion plan for the World Trade Center site say they're continuing to talk despite a deadline.

Developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said in a statement Friday that they are continuing to negotiate.

Both sides say they've given an update to the arbitration panel that set Friday's deadline.

They say that after "substantial discussions," they "have made progress toward resolving the issues surrounding the eastern portion of the World Trade Center site."

The building of planned towers at that part of the site has stalled in a dispute over financing. Silverstein wants more public money to build the towers, but the authority says it's better to delay construction on two of the towers until the real estate market improves.


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Old March 14th, 2010, 04:59 AM   #13415
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The plaza building probably weren't named 4,5 and 6 WTC at the time. I don't know..or maybe 3 WTC was in the original plans but they decided to build it later for some reason
Hi, it is a bit of topic but maybe i can help with you discussion.

I have a link here with all the original 1963 World Trade Center Master-plan, where 5WTC actually was the hotel and 3WTC was just an office building.
And 6 and 5WTC where like one big building.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evid...lan/index.html

I guess they just came up with a better plan and new design for the WTC hotel. Because it was originally called the Vista hotel owned by the PA like the rest of the complex, but later (late 80's or mid 90's) sold to the Marriott Hotel group.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 11:17 AM   #13416
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so i have a question:

in the new world trade complex, where would the sixth building go? it goes from 5 (jp morgan chase) to 7 (7wtc). would the goldman sachs take the honor of 6wtc?
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Old March 14th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #13417
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Hopefully some pictures will get this thread back on topic......

By NYGuy, SSP, 3-12-10.







Nice updates, many thanks!

I hope the construction process will accelerate. But its difficult to bring all the construction material on stie in the middle of a big city. There is not so much space on site with all the other construction sites nearby.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 02:54 PM   #13418
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according to Wikipedia...

They are building WTC 4 before 2 and 3.
Yes they are
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Old March 14th, 2010, 03:17 PM   #13419
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Original Site wasn't built all at once...
1 WTC: 1966–1972
2 WTC: 1966–1973
3 WTC: 1980-1981
4, 5, & 6 WTC: 1975-1979
7 WTC: 1985-1987
Formal years of construction - 5 August 1966r - 4 April 1973r
Unofficial years of construction - March 1966r - June 1981r
North Tower (WTC1) - August 1968r - 23 December 1970r tallest building in the world
Souht Tower (WTC2) - January 1969r - 19 July 1971r
WTC6 - 1969r - 1971r
WTC5 - 1970r - 1972r
WTC4 - 1973r - 1975r
WTC3 - 1980r - June 1981r, open July 1981r
WTC7 - 1983r - 1987r, open May 1987


I recall that owns all the land on which the previous which was a newly built complex of the World Trade Center, the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey since the early '60. The current developer Larry Silverstein is the sole tenant of the former World Trade Center complex, and now land in lower Manhattan. Another tenant is the Westfield Group, which is leased areas below street level or ex Mall. So just three people / companies having rights to land can not get along ... that is, the dispute has no end. Fortunately, the power of New York and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation gave the delivery person "concerned" at the time because it speaks to the conflict in the whole city is suffering and its citizens. In the absence of compromise, the consequences will be disastrous.
In my opinion, even better, that suspended construction WTC2 and WTC3 the simple reason that if the One World Trade Center will be the dominant object in Lower Manhattan is in the vicinity should not be in places like the height of WTC1, and even slightly lower than the object dominant. In my opinion, LMDC should consider spatial development plan for this place and take into account the fact that WTC1 (not) be the dominant object in Manhattan. I am not here to make this part of the site has been built up, on the contrary, but as I build it with his head. Had WTC2 and WTC3 built their height coincide or differ very little up to WTC1. Currently, an object which is not dominant, but on the contrary is currently being built "four". I recall what he looked like the skyline of Lower Manhattan before 9 / 11. Twin Towers were the objects of the parent building and none dared to approach the height of the Twin Towers. A similar situation is in Upper Manhattan, where, surrounded by the Empire State Building is not equal to those of his building height.
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Old March 14th, 2010, 06:37 PM   #13420
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I see that the "wind frame" design of the office floors allowed them to put up the next section of corner node on the SW . (The mechanical floors are a braced wind frame)

The perimeter steel resists almost all of the wind load and about half of the gravity load (the core takes the rest).

Zen,

Would you mind talking a little bit more about "wind frame" design vs. "braced wind frame?" I know for some that might seem very obvious/elementary, but I'd really appreciate it if you could explain it a bit more.

Thanks bud!

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