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Old July 10th, 2010, 03:08 PM   #14921
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seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.
You forget that out of those 1.3 billion Chinese, 1.2 billion are subsistance farmers and peasants. USA is the " middle of attention " as you put it in terms of economy, military, cultural influence and in many other sphere's of influence. I am an Englishman but I realize this is USA's world. You seem to be the ignorant one!
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Old July 10th, 2010, 06:38 PM   #14922
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seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.
If you think 30 floors of steel and concrete is "a hole in the ground" then I don't think you need to be commenting on anything.
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Old July 10th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #14923
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With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?
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Old July 10th, 2010, 08:06 PM   #14924
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With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?
This is going to be the worry of modern era buildings!!!
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Old July 10th, 2010, 09:24 PM   #14925
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The queen looks very old.
I thought she looks rather young for her age, more like a lady in 60's, possibly 70.

To me 84 is old, but not very old. Most of you will live to be in your 80s and possibly 90s with the advances in science and medicine (not me, though, I have medical issues now and I'll be lucky to make it to 70.)

The construction is going nice. I will be visiting NYC within the next month or so, so I'll see it for myself.
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Old July 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM   #14926
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A really nice shot by Sherpa, WNY, 7-10-10. I was nervous about the blast walls, but I think they turned out about as nice as could be hoped for. I wish the lobby floor could be more open, but oh well...

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Old July 10th, 2010, 10:19 PM   #14927
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Another shot by Sherpa, showing the new steel on the top.

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Old July 10th, 2010, 10:33 PM   #14928
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seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.


Ladies and gentlemen, the new definition of the word "hole".

It's true that there are many fantastic skyscrapers going up in China. But here, on this thread? We're discussing the World Trade Center, in New York City. It's rather nice.

Excellent progress, btw. I'm excited to see the next steel section erected.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 01:40 AM   #14929
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It's visible from the Empire State Building now...Barely but visible...
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Old July 11th, 2010, 03:03 AM   #14930
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omegachopstick really got u americans, u guys get offended so easly lol, even though that guy is an ass hole
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Old July 11th, 2010, 04:29 AM   #14931
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You may want to re-read those responses. I don't think any of us were even close to offended.

Moving on. Does anyone know how the cost of the entire 'new' WTC complex compares to the old one? I've been curious about this for a while.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 04:36 AM   #14932
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You may want to re-read those responses. I don't think any of us were even close to offended.

Moving on. Does anyone know how the cost of the entire 'new' WTC complex compares to the old one? I've been curious about this for a while.
I believe the old one was $800 million in 1973 dollars, not including 7WTC or the Vista International Hotel which were added later.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 04:37 AM   #14933
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Yeah, well I meant like a direct comparison of both fully completed projects adjusted for inflation.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 04:57 AM   #14934
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According to the Skyscraper Museum, the estimated cost of the entire development was $1.5 billion. http://www.skyscraper.org/TALLEST_TOWERS/t_wtc.htm

Which, using this CPI calculator, http://www.govspot.com/ask/inflation.htm, adjusted as "1975 dollars", places the cost of the original at over $6 billion today.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 05:34 AM   #14935
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Thanks! Those websites will come in handy some day. Does anyone know where I can find the cost figures for the current complex?
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Old July 11th, 2010, 05:38 AM   #14936
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With all these extra terroist prevention measures like blast walls and extra thick concrete, is there any room left for offices?
The blast walls are to protect the lobby and emergency stairs from truck bombs.

The office floors are protected from truck bombs by being 186 feet above street level.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 06:39 AM   #14937
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seems like another ignorant American thinking they're in the middle of the attention. You forgot that China has 1.3 billion people. That alone is 1 billion more than all of US Americans dreaming about a propaganda building that's still a hole underground after 9 years.
You mean the Shanghai Tower? That's one mean hole.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 07:16 AM   #14938
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Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...
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Old July 11th, 2010, 07:31 AM   #14939
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Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...
Don't give the government some brand new ideas on how to 'demolish' the building.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 07:53 AM   #14940
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Did you know the Empire State building only costed 900.000 dollars, while the building that was there before costed 24 million to be demolished. Considering this one probably costs more than a billion it would be impossible to pay the demolishment if it had the same ratio...
You could always just fly a few planes into it... jk jk
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