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Old August 7th, 2010, 10:47 AM   #15321
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WTC Is to New York what what the Shard is to London. Both represent something very special all be it for different reasons. It's nice to see some hight, one can only wait for the cladding. New York and London... The best city's in the world!
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Old August 7th, 2010, 01:51 PM   #15322
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I think you are confusing this tower with the WTC memorial. This tower has no connection to any lives lost, it is just an office building.
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I think you misinterpret what I have written. No one can forget the loss of live that happened 9 years ago, but I am talking about what the new tower's mean to the the cities they are been built in. Both represent something to be very proud off. The Shard once completed will be the tallest in European community, 1 WTC when completed, will be among the tallest buildings in the world and the tallest in the United States. This is my comparison.
The Shard is just a tall office tower. Maybe it represents the power of Great Britain or something like that, but that's all.

OneWTC is part of the WTC and its history. For that reason it will always be connected with the shocker of 9/11 and its impact to the american society and mankind.

You can't compare the meaning of OneWTC to any other buildings as you can't compare the 9/11 tragedy to any other tragedy.
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Old August 8th, 2010, 01:06 AM   #15323
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Old August 8th, 2010, 01:16 AM   #15324
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Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.

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Old August 8th, 2010, 01:47 AM   #15325
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Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.
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I'm pretty sure the memorial and one wtc will all be completed in 2014 the only thing that might be completed in 2020 is 2 wtc and 3 wtc
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Old August 8th, 2010, 02:06 AM   #15326
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I'm pretty sure the memorial and one wtc will all be completed in 2014 the only thing that might be completed in 2020 is 2 wtc and 3 wtc
Well i asked when 1 and the Transportation Center were going to be completed. I asked for the real date not the fake date as many ppl here seem to think it will be completed.
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Old August 8th, 2010, 02:07 AM   #15327
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we're not buying what your saling buddy, so give it a rest. Now where were we. The model needs to be upgraded. The ring around the spire should be change, it hasn't look like that in years.
I just ignore the theorists, truthers, etc....glad they have something to talk about but I ain't listenin'....p
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Old August 8th, 2010, 02:12 AM   #15328
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Well i asked when 1 and the Transportation Center were going to be completed. I asked for the real date not the fake date as many ppl here seem to think it will be completed.
The various parties involved in this project can be fined up to $250,000 per day past the scheduled completion date. 1WTC will be finished and open by 2014, and the memorial far sooner.
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Old August 8th, 2010, 02:17 AM   #15329
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Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.
Maybe they're referring to having all the floors fully built out. I doubt any of the tenants like Vantone or Conde Nast are going to be able to move in immediately in late 2013 or early 2014.

Doesn't matter to me. The most important date is when it will be open to the general public. I'm guessing second half of 2014 or early 2015 at the latest.
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Old August 8th, 2010, 03:09 AM   #15330
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Some pictures i took yesterday. When i asked the guy at the info both when the project is supposed to be competed he said 2013-14 , when i asked when it was really going to be completed 2018-20 he had a serious face on. If you guys would ask the people who are working down there when it will completed you get the real completion dates. Tell them your a New Yorker / New Jerseyite because they seem to tell the tourists different.
Thanks man, great update...It's nice to see it from diferent angles and diferent streets and positions...
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Old August 8th, 2010, 05:05 AM   #15331
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The various parties involved in this project can be fined up to $250,000 per day past the scheduled completion date. 1WTC will be finished and open by 2014, and the memorial far sooner.
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Maybe they're referring to having all the floors fully built out. I doubt any of the tenants like Vantone or Conde Nast are going to be able to move in immediately in late 2013 or early 2014.

Doesn't matter to me. The most important date is when it will be open to the general public. I'm guessing second half of 2014 or early 2015 at the latest.
To be honest i trust them more then any set date. They are working on or with the project. The Politics in this region are sure to inject there heads into this project sometime in the near future. Politics , Corruption , and money troubles show up form out of the blue. Here's a list of Regional Projects that have been affected by that , 2nd Avenue Subway , NJT's New Tunnel and Station Midtown , Amtrak's New Station in Midtown , 3 New or Upgraded Bridges to Staten Island , PATH Extension to EWR & 7th Avenue Subway extension. You may not believe me ,but thats how it works around here. Its very sad and Pathetic that we can't do the simplest of things and ontime / budget. 250k a day is chunk change in this region, that is nothing. Yes the Memorial will be done , but the rest of the site is up in the air in terms of completion dates. So i don't hold my breath on anything that is said around here , i take it with a grain of salt.

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Thanks man, great update...It's nice to see it from diferent angles and diferent streets and positions...
Thankyou and heres 3 more form Jersey City.

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Old August 8th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #15332
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To be honest i trust them more then any set date. They are working on or with the project.
...and I would trust the contractors actually responsible for the project and with money on the line for completion over the lackey in the info booth. I'm sure he's not a bad guy, just sharing typical NYC cynicism, especially with the mess before the PA took over.
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Old August 8th, 2010, 10:32 AM   #15333
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...and I would trust the contractors actually responsible for the project and with money on the line for completion over the lackey in the info booth. I'm sure he's not a bad guy, just sharing typical NYC cynicism, especially with the mess before the PA took over.
True but still , i don't think hes off. You know how it works in the NYC Region with Large Scale projects and Politics..... Theres always delays and like we have seen changes.
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Old August 8th, 2010, 08:04 PM   #15334
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I well consider the Tower finished and open when I can take my wife to dinner in the restaurant, or visit the observation deck.

I wouldn't be surprised if I could take her to dinner for her birthday, January 1st, 2014, or, at the latest she can take me to dinner on my BD, April 21st. (I wonder if it's too early to make reservations ?!?)

There well probably be alot of floors still undergoing tenant fit out at that time but the Tower well be finished and open.

Go to this website, click on the WTC Site tab and scroll down to almost the bottom of the page. ( The Transit Hall contracts are near the top of the page.)

http://www.panynj.gov/business-oppor...s-awarded.html

Do you really think all these company's are going to risk losing money on there contract due to late penalties because they didn't spend a little more money to get there contract finished on time ? Or worse, risk defaulting on there bonds !

http://www.attny.com/gci32djd.html (Some lite reading if anyone has trouble falling asleep at night)

The PA requires that company's provide performance bonds on any contract over $1 million. Only the largest company's can survive defaulting on a performance bond. (The work still gets done, by another company.)

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Old August 8th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #15335
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hi guys!!

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Any idea what those window like things are?
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Old August 9th, 2010, 03:12 AM   #15338
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thats really cool!
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very nice up date picture...
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