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Old August 12th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #15401
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It was really to see world trade center like this...got to know many new things about it here...thank you...
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Old August 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM   #15402
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Also NY will have more health and safety regulations which prevent workers doing 18 hour shifts.
Also this tower will be of a much higher build quality than anything that has ever come out of dubai.


I also thought it was a well know factoid amongst us skyscraper folk that the Empire State Building was built in only 11 months.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 02:17 PM   #15403
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I can't say I am a pro on this but, a floor per week is quite slow. In Dubai and China the buildings rise way faster. In Dubai they got people working 24/7. I went there for a weeks vacation and there was a building site next to our hotel. I've never seen so many workers on one building. ....and I've once heard that in Dubai they build a floor per day, but that's just a rumour

I guess the NYC guys are paid an hourly wage so why hurry?
They have target date when tower has to be done, but hey, it's a hour pay, so let's put one beam every 3 hours up and we'll be a loaded with money...Who cares if our boss will pay penalty because we didn't build it at time...
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Old August 12th, 2010, 02:55 PM   #15404
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also they are building the memorial center there as well, which probably means workers are working all over the place.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 03:38 PM   #15405
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If you have ever been to the site in person, it is amazing to see the activity. Cameras, webcams, videos....they just cannot capture what the human eye can.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #15406
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They have target date when tower has to be done, but hey, it's a hour pay, so let's put one beam every 3 hours up and we'll be a loaded with money...Who cares if our boss will pay penalty because we didn't build it at time...
He can pay the penalty from the money he earned during all those extra hours.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 04:35 PM   #15407
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The difference in speed between this tower and the ones in Dubai is mostly in the construction. 1WTC is simply harder to build.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 04:39 PM   #15408
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I can't say I am a pro on this but, a floor per week is quite slow. In Dubai and China the buildings rise way faster. In Dubai they got people working 24/7. I went there for a weeks vacation and there was a building site next to our hotel. I've never seen so many workers on one building. ....and I've once heard that in Dubai they build a floor per day, but that's just a rumour

I guess the NYC guys are paid an hourly wage so why hurry?
Well it all depend of the size and material used for floors. In NYC they are using first steel and then concrete. In Dubai as I saw, only concrete structure
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Old August 12th, 2010, 04:56 PM   #15409
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The difference in speed between this tower and the ones in Dubai is mostly in the construction. 1WTC is simply harder to build.

Getting all of the supplies and materials shipped in there, in and amongst that canyon of skyscrapers, and from the rivers around the island of Manhattan, is at least as big of a chore as the actual physical construction of the project itself.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #15410
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Old August 12th, 2010, 06:44 PM   #15411
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Man this thing is rising up quickly!
Really??? After all the years waiting... we see finally something rising!
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Old August 12th, 2010, 06:59 PM   #15412
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Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 07:46 PM   #15413
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Dont worry now.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 10:04 PM   #15414
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Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.
Lower Manhattan is a no fly zone.

I wonder how much impact having the Subway up there has affected the rate of construction? Surely having to walk all the way to the bottom and up again for lunch must take a valuable slice of time out of the day.

... Anyway, I don't expect terrorists will abide fly zones if given the chance.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 10:12 PM   #15415
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Unless they declare no fly zone to lower manhattan and implant bomb monitors around the site, then I am not going into there or even into the site.
Well, with that attitude why don't you just hand victory to the terrorists because if we all thought like you do, Bin Laden would have won the war years ago. Thank God there are people who stand up to this and say... we will built again and we will not be scared.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:10 PM   #15416
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I think the difference in constructionspeed between Dubai and NY is also also there because NY is a city and Dubai more of a giant constructionpit with almost no citylife at streetlevel. This has an effect on logistics and stuff...
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #15417
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haha im afraid im not Erik im westmc9th on there as well lol he stole them lol but its ok i guess but id rather u change them from him 2 mine haha.

Anyway the tower really is massive pictures dont even come close to the reality
Sue the guy and get some money. [if the pictures are yours ofcourse]
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:27 PM   #15418
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Unless you were planning on selling the pictures, suing someone over it is a dick move. People may be dumb when it comes to crediting photos, but they're just trying to spread the updates around. There is most likely no malicious intent.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 12:25 AM   #15419
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I also thought it was a well know factoid amongst us skyscraper folk that the Empire State Building was built in only 11 months.
The ESB is legendary amongst skyscrapers for the speed of its construction and reflects the time when it was built - the period after the Wall Street Crash when money was tight and nobody wanted their wealth tied up for too long.

The steelwork would go up around one floor a day and was helped by an extremely well-honed organisation. Steel beams and columns would arrive just in time with each element marked with the gate it was to arrive at and the crane to be used to lift it into position.

The steel went up very fast because the steel erectors only had to bolt the sections together. They would be followed several storeys below by a team of 'plumbers' whose job it was to ensure the structure was square and true and then the temporary bolts would be removed and replaced by rivets.

I guess also that the tower was simpler to build in that it was a straightforward building without bracing and without need for a core or the varying floor plans of 1WTC. The structure relied for its stability on the shear weight and rigidity of its masonry cladding.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 12:52 AM   #15420
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