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Old August 30th, 2010, 02:23 AM   #15741
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A Nissan built in a Chinese plant takes only 18 minutes to complete , and the quality shows it.

A Ferrari built by hand takes one week and the quality simply shows.


The burj Dubai / khalif w/e, is pourd concrete and I doubt it will still be there in 120 years.

The wtc1 is a metalogical wonder that will be around for 100s of years.
Please, don't feed the trolls, they are fat and stupid enough as it is.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 02:49 AM   #15742
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Cladding should start soon enough, but I prefer them taking their time, since too many times has the cladding on buildings UC been damaged because of bad timing (and poor safety measures).

For the OT comments, so we can put an ending to it (at least temporary):



1) Keep away from politics, especially when you have no idea what you are talking about.

2) The cell phone you own (assuming you are old enough to own one) has probably greater computational power than what was used when the old WTC towers were engineered. Estimation was the main path to follow, there were no supercomputers that could do simulations for that kind of scenario (or almost any kind really, given how rudimental they were). So again, keep away from things you know nothing about.



Probably the most OT I've seen on this page so far (and there is fierce competition):


hmmm...shanghai tower retribution, :-) I'm sorry for being a jerk, I'll end it there.


Can't wait for the cladding to appear, should be stunning.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 03:43 AM   #15743
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No, i do not feel it rise, the rumbling and whatnot of the construction is too far across the river........ i do SEE it rise, since my girlfriend lives in hudson county i go to exchange place a lot, and you can see pretty much all of manhattan from the pier there, and the pier the nearby hotel sits on. You people with your one track minds.....

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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:01 AM   #15744
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Looks like an older model Favco STD 1500, like the first crane that came down from the building at 42nd and 10th ave a few months back.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:10 AM   #15745
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I think you might be right, I wasn't sure if it was a current model or an older model.

If it is an STD 1500 just double the figures for max load from the ones I posted for the TD133.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:24 AM   #15746
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Why is the new crane so low? What will it be used for?
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Old August 30th, 2010, 04:34 AM   #15747
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It will not stay at it's current elevation for long, it's for the concrete contractor.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 05:32 AM   #15748
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Old August 30th, 2010, 05:49 AM   #15749
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new crane..??
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Old August 30th, 2010, 06:30 AM   #15750
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Questions: What is the purpose of the new crane? is it simply to bring supplies up to the already constructed floors? If so, will this move all the way up the tower with its construction? Also, if this method is better than using the existing cranes on top or elevators why don't we commonly see it on other buildings?
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Old August 30th, 2010, 06:57 AM   #15751
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Pics from when I was there last week.











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Old August 30th, 2010, 06:59 AM   #15752
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they are taking a long time; in dubai the tallest tower in the world was finished in 5 years and it is more or less the double of the freedom tower that even after 9 years doesnīt look like a big advance. There you have, how the syndicates can ruin a city or a country. Before all dose labor unions the USA had the best working people in the world, now finding something made in the USA is almost impossible, and if you donīt believe me look at GM (government Motors) almost went bankrupt all because of the labor unions and the goverment is ruining GM, Chrysler and the free market, Ford is a company that represents america a capitalist country, the light in the end of the hallway, the american dream but now is more like the Ļ Chinese dream"
Yet another brainwashed Republican retard...
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Old August 30th, 2010, 07:20 AM   #15753
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Yet another brainwashed Republican retard...
and the political bashing continues....cmon guys lets leave politics out of SSC
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Old August 30th, 2010, 09:25 AM   #15754
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Keep politics out of this..!
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Old August 30th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #15755
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You guys can fight over all the girls and girlfriends and women you want, that construction worker in jwalas' picture, third down, with his face showin, is all mine.

Anyway love the picture at night, I have to get down there again at night to take some pictures of my own.
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Old August 30th, 2010, 07:25 PM   #15756
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Of course! Image updates really count as long as they are meaningful or rather new.
Ok sweet! I will upload them asap!
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Old August 30th, 2010, 07:39 PM   #15757
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Wow, many floors since i was last up here!

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Old August 30th, 2010, 08:54 PM   #15758
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wow this building is ridiculous, terrible design, a wasteful pile of american crap!

just kidding
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Old August 30th, 2010, 08:56 PM   #15759
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A Nissan built in a Chinese plant takes only 18 minutes to complete , and the quality shows it.

A Ferrari built by hand takes one week and the quality simply shows.


The burj Dubai / khalif w/e, is pourd concrete and I doubt it will still be there in 120 years.

The wtc1 is a metalogical wonder that will be around for 100s of years.
Yes, I agree completely with what you say about a chinese built car.

But beware of what you say of the Burj dubai. Nobody knows what building will be around in a 100 years. I get the point you're getting to. The burj Dubai was built in 5 years, well, that's their business. I myself am pleased with the time taken in consideration for the WTC site. But stating that the Burj Dubai apparently is not going to last because it's made out of poured concrete it's just nonsense!
Here in Chile, 99 percent of our large and tall building are made out of poured concrete, while there are only very few examples of steel buildings. Why? because of earthquakes. Our first real skyscraper (Titanium Tower, 192 mts.) stood up in a 8.8 magnitude earthquake just fine because it's a poured concrete marvel. Every material and technique has their pro's and con's, but it doesn't mean one is far superior than the other one. I study architechture here, and studied for a year overseas too, and in both places I was taught that poured concrete (with steel grid inside of course) was one of the greatest and most durable techniques. It stands fires, earthquakes, time, erosion, etc extremely well when done right. Still, New York is New york, they dont have earthquakes (neither does Dubai) so steel framing is the way to go. Fine by them!
My point is, both Burj Dubai and One World Trade Center are technological marvels of their own. And it's got nothing to do with how long it took to build them. I could start talking about labour issues which are more important in the subject matter, but hell no, I won't go into that.


Cheerios.

PS: gosh, One World Trade center is looking greater everyday!
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Old August 31st, 2010, 12:56 AM   #15760
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Great pics, its really coming along
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