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Old September 2nd, 2010, 02:34 PM   #15821
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Will NYC ever allow a building taller than 1776 feet??
It depends on the definition of "ever" in your case.

in the next decades -> no
from now till the end of the universe -> yes
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 02:37 PM   #15822
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It depends on the definition of "ever" in your case.

in the next decades -> no
from now till the end of the universe -> yes
I still hope that it true regarding the decade, not decades...

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Old September 2nd, 2010, 02:47 PM   #15823
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Meh, height isn't everything any longer - I mean look at Dubai, building ridiculously tall which kind of sends out the message "look at me, I'm here" without having the business talent and culture to back it up - cities around the world are collecting skyscrapers like third world countries collect fleets of Mercedes for status and I think skyscraper trends have advanced beyond just building the tallest - I was watching the video on retro fitting the Empire State Building for sustainability and also reading about the environmentally friendly construction of the Bank of America building. Now that's far more pallatable for modern building design than wishing a city's buildings taller - the equivalent, as someone on these forums once said, of a bunch of sad middle aged men waving their willies around to see whose is the biggest.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 06:56 PM   #15824
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Be aware that the 1776 ft is including the spire.
So even if the city doesn't allow building taller than 1776 ft, they can build buildings that are higher/ look higher than WTC1 (if you don't include the spire)
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 07:38 PM   #15825
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Be aware that the 1776 ft is including the spire.
So even if the city doesn't allow building taller than 1776 ft, they can build buildings that are higher/ look higher than WTC1 (if you don't include the spire)
Yes, but it means that we still can only dream about something like, say, the Shanghai Tower in the NYC (I mean the height).

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Old September 2nd, 2010, 07:58 PM   #15826
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It would look much better if there would be two freedom towers
You mean like this:

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Old September 2nd, 2010, 07:58 PM   #15827
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It would look much better if there would be two freedom towers


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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:00 PM   #15828
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You mean like this:

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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:20 PM   #15829
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It would be blasphemy to build that on hollow ground of the old WTC site. You should be ashamed of yourselves. WTC 2 is all most the same height of the WTC 1 at the roof. Besides, NYC has built too many twin towers in the past decade.

Nice, double post.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:21 PM   #15830
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GreenwichBoy, September 2nd..WNY..

Looks like they finally fixed that beam on the base...



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Old September 2nd, 2010, 08:25 PM   #15831
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It would be blasphemy to build that on hollow ground of the old WTC site. You should be ashamed of yourselves. WTC 2 is all most the same height of the WTC 1 at the roof. Besides, NYC has built too many twin towers in the past decade.

Nice, double post.
You're right....like Times Warner Center, Silver Towers, World Trade Center Twin Towers.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 09:51 PM   #15832
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I am amazed. Only few weeks of no looking at this thread beacuse of holidays and there's such a big progress that I can't believe it! Nice pictures.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 11:44 PM   #15833
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You mean like this:

is there space for that so maybe a possibility in future?
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 11:47 PM   #15834
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Yes, but it means that we still can only dream about something like, say, the Shanghai Tower in the NYC (I mean the height).

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Why in the world is everyone making such a big deal about height in the NYC skyline?

NYC has plenty of height.
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 12:02 AM   #15835
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is there space for that so maybe a possibility in future?
No..It won't happen...Ever...
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 07:02 AM   #15836
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Personally, I like the current concept, because having the one tower at a similar scale to the original twins, but without its own twin, is a powerful architectural symbol all on its own.

It will remind people of the loss of the originals, because it looks and feels like something is missing from the skyline, forever.

This effect will be lessened when towers 2 and 3 are also built, but people will always remember the twin towers, and know that they're not coming back.

The voids of the memorial will only manifest this effect to the observer who actually visits them, but the decision not to rebuild the skyline as it was before will write the memory and loss of those people who died on 9/11 right into the very urban fabric of the city itself, for all the world to see.

It is certainly sad, and solemn, but I now think that building new twins would be a little bit like pretending we can bring back the people, too. I think we'd be doing the victims a disservice if we didn't make the place they died a better place than ever before, and then go on with our own lives, while remembering them. I think that when the current plan is fully realized, it will represent one of the best places in New York.

Upward!
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 07:06 AM   #15837
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is there space for that so maybe a possibility in future?
I don't think so. After the attacks they had planned to rebuilt the Twin Towers again. That picsture is just someone edit it and made it look like 2 Freedom Towers, but i dont think that they wanted to plan to make 2 Freedom Towers so i guess thats a no to your question. Plus no space, i mean you have the Performing Arts Center next to it and 7WTC behind it, the memorials in front of it and the WFC on the other side.
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 07:25 AM   #15838
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Wowwww!
It´s growing up fast! :O
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 09:17 AM   #15839
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Personally, I like the current concept, because having the one tower at a similar scale to the original twins, but without its own twin, is a powerful architectural symbol all on its own.

It will remind people of the loss of the originals, because it looks and feels like something is missing from the skyline, forever.

This effect will be lessened when towers 2 and 3 are also built, but people will always remember the twin towers, and know that they're not coming back.

The voids of the memorial will only manifest this effect to the observer who actually visits them, but the decision not to rebuild the skyline as it was before will write the memory and loss of those people who died on 9/11 right into the very urban fabric of the city itself, for all the world to see.

It is certainly sad, and solemn, but I now think that building new twins would be a little bit like pretending we can bring back the people, too. I think we'd be doing the victims a disservice if we didn't make the place they died a better place than ever before, and then go on with our own lives, while remembering them. I think that when the current plan is fully realized, it will represent one of the best places in New York.

Upward!
Great words...
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Old September 3rd, 2010, 10:07 AM   #15840
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I felt sympathy to u guys who lost the twins on that day. It is true that Deutsche Bank Building site can place 3WTC instead of Tower 5 but u can't sometimes count on yourselves and occupie the 2nd Freedom Tower on that space. Sorry to say, it will not happen. May the towers rest in peace.
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