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Old October 22nd, 2010, 03:25 AM   #17021
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Getting back to construction news, that was a little bit of a let down to hear that they will be slowing down over the winter due to wind conditions. Makes sense, but slower is never better for a spectator like me.

Does anyone have any idea how much it will slow down? Will it go from one floor per week to maybe one floor every two weeks?
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 03:31 AM   #17022
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Viewing the tower normal to any of the four main compass directions (N, S, E, W), it will appear as 200' in width. This is a fact, folks.

Viewing from NW, NE, SW, and SE, the tower will be considerably thinner in appearance when compared to the twins. This is also a fact.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 12:15 PM   #17023
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Getting back to construction news, that was a little bit of a let down to hear that they will be slowing down over the winter due to wind conditions. Makes sense, but slower is never better for a spectator like me.

Does anyone have any idea how much it will slow down? Will it go from one floor per week to maybe one floor every two weeks?
As you said it depends on the weather! Without the weather forecast for the next 4 month it's impossible to answer this question.
This is New York, not Miami. We can be sure that there will be cold winter days with snow and ice and strong winds. Now try to install a steel coloumn 200 meters above ground.. good luck..

You could make a little research and try to find out how much for example Beekman slowed down in the last winter. But even then you still don't know if the next winter will bring better or worse conditions as the last one.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 12:46 PM   #17024
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The thing I notice on the interior construction pics is the size of the beams supporting the floors between the core and facade.......the old WTC had very light open trusses which sagged during the the fires on 9/11 which may have a part in the collapse of the towers.......Now they are using solid 'I' beams...... ! see pics DinoVabec post #17009
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 01:23 PM   #17025
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 01:28 PM   #17026
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 01:55 PM   #17027
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Counting diaganols is something totally different. The diaganols of the old twin towers were about 300 feet.

So again, the new tower is much smaller.
An old pic of the original WTC buildings.

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Old October 22nd, 2010, 02:27 PM   #17028
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So does this actually taper, and is the square footage of the top smaller than the square footage at the base? Are the 170X170 and 200X200 figures cited below correct?

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Yes, at the top sides are smaller..because they're 45° rotated at the top...But diagonals "east-west" and "south-north" are still 200' x 200'

I'm not good at this system, I'm in metric, so I wont calculate now dimensions here, so 170' might be wrong, I'm not sure right now, this is just for example...


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Old October 22nd, 2010, 02:34 PM   #17029
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Is it me or WTC1 really looks thinner than the twin towers?
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When viewed directly from any of the entrance sides, it has the same proportions as the originals. When viewed from 45 degrees, the tapered pyramid shape is clear. New and old together.
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"Is it me or WTC1 really looks thinner than the twin towers?"

It is thinner. Even at the base it is thinner and as it goes up it gets much thinner than the original twin towers.

That is why this is a much dimminished building compared to what was there before and that is what some of us don't like.
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Only sides that are thiner are those 45° corner sides... East, west, south and north sides goin' straight up..200'x200'...
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Counting diaganols is something totally different. The diaganols of the old twin towers were about 300 feet.

So again, the new tower is much smaller.

The tower is smaller, but the question was is it thinner...And here's my point in all this story..



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Old October 22nd, 2010, 02:35 PM   #17030
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So does this actually taper, and is the square footage of the top smaller than the square footage at the base? Are the 170X170 and 200X200 figures cited below correct?
200x200 is correct, but 170x170 isn't...It was just for an example...Someone who is good with feets and inches should calculate pitagoras..
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 03:19 PM   #17031
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200x200 is correct, but 170x170 isn't...It was just for an example...Someone who is good with feets and inches should calculate pitagoras..
As long as you don't want inch precision, Pythagoras will stay perfectly the same with feet as with the metric system.

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Old October 22nd, 2010, 03:31 PM   #17032
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141.4 feet, approximately.

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Old October 22nd, 2010, 03:47 PM   #17033
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Oh, and they've repositioned the moving lo-res cam for the first time in years.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:23 PM   #17034
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:33 PM   #17035
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:51 PM   #17036
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Uh oh, someones beautiful view is about to get blocked!
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:42 PM   #17037
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 06:51 PM   #17038
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These figures were posted years ago on this forum and I saved them. I don't know how official they are. I'm not sure why the usable sq ft doesn't consistantly lessen the higher up, I assume it must have something to do with the cores, also the large skylobby on 64th floor would take up a lot of usable space.

Floor Sizes: Available Size Ranges
Floors (Usable Square Feet) (Usable Square Meters)
47 – 51 32,255 – 32,877 2,996 – 3,054
52 – 56 26,819 – 31,913 2,491 – 2,965
57 – 61 26,623 – 31,138 2,473 – 2,893
62 – 66 25,886 – 29,774 2,405 – 2,766
67 – 72 27,245 – 29,151 2,531 – 2,704
73 – 77 27,146 – 28,323 2,522 – 2,631
78 – 82 24,990 – 26,534 2,322 – 2,465
83 – 88 23,971 – 25,072 2,227 – 2,329
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 07:27 PM   #17039
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Thanks. So it does get smaller at the top, and it's not just an illusion.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 07:58 PM   #17040
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i realy like these towers
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