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Old November 1st, 2010, 08:29 PM   #17241
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China uses cheap labor forces rather than expensive union workers.
corrected that for you. SWFC, ICC and others are one of the safest supertall skyscrapers in the world! saying china uses cheap materials is nothing but wrong.
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Old November 1st, 2010, 08:32 PM   #17242
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it will be better to have 1776 Meters high Freedom tower! without spire! roof at the current high!
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Old November 1st, 2010, 08:55 PM   #17243
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it will be better to have 1776 Meters high Freedom tower! without spire! roof at the current high!
Would be great to have a building so much higher, But really, how high? When is high enough, enough? You cannot change the height of current tower, even 1 floor would destroy the current design, that is because to extend what is being built ( allready perfect triangles) would just look terrible! This is what is being built, DEAL WITH IT!
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Old November 1st, 2010, 10:11 PM   #17244
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it will be better to have 1776 kiloMeters high Freedom tower! without spire! roof at the current high!
Fixed.
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Old November 1st, 2010, 10:14 PM   #17245
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trolls need to be stopped by moderators here...
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Old November 1st, 2010, 11:07 PM   #17246
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Old November 1st, 2010, 11:45 PM   #17247
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Still no cladding.....
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Old November 1st, 2010, 11:56 PM   #17248
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Still no cladding.....
Fireproofing is now on 21st floor...I hope they'll be faster now with this floor...
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Old November 1st, 2010, 11:59 PM   #17249
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Cladding starts this month. Hopefully we'll see some glass go up this coming week.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 12:24 AM   #17250
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This beautiful supertall skyscraper will shine a little more and gleam more radiantly if New Yorkers elect another Cuomo to the governor's mansion.

C'mon New Yorkers, do the right thing!
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 05:09 AM   #17251
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China vs. US discussions are always a blast. Glad to see people out there so eager to prove that stupidity knows no nationality.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 12:06 PM   #17252
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I think that Chinese recent construction are safer than old New York building.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:24 PM   #17253
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:34 PM   #17254
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Magnificent picture - it's really coming on now.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:35 PM   #17255
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NOVEMBER 1, 2010
WTC Taps Fuel Cells

High-End Energy Efficiency for Towers


By ANTON TROIANOVSKI

Late last month, six box-shaped objects each almost as large as a shipping container arrived at the World Trade Center site on six trucks, were picked up by a crane, and deposited at the bottom of the construction pit near the intersection of Liberty Street and Church Street.



Some 30% of the electricity to power the four towers going up on the World Trade Center site will come from fuel cells. WSJ's Anton Troianovski looks at how builders are trying to reduce the development's reliance on the New York power grid.

The contents of the nondescript cargo: six fuel cells, which together will provide about 30% of the power for towers 3 and 4 of the World Trade Center office complex. Once the cells start providing power, the World Trade Center site will become one of the biggest fuel-cell installations in the world, the developers say.

Fuel cells have been a closely watched technology as concerns about greenhouse-gas emissions have increased. They create electricity through chemical reactions rather than by burning something. As a result, the major byproducts are water and heat.

Fuel cells already power some energy-guzzling commercial properties such as hospitals, supermarkets and bottling plants. But the technology still is in the relatively early stages of being used on a broad scale in commercial buildings because it's complicated and often more expensive than conventional energy sources. Delivering those fuel cells, the likes of which will also power towers 1 and 2, was a key step in outfitting the buildings with the energy-efficient technology that developers Silverstein Properties Inc. and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey will be touting as they face the daunting task of filling millions of square feet of new office space.

Constructing the skyscrapers with the latest in green-building technology was also a priority for government agencies and public-interest groups in the wake of the Twin Towers' destruction. Gov. David Paterson said in 2008 that the new World Trade Center would be "an exemplar of environmental sustainability" and that he could "think of few sites in the country where the symbolism of this is more important."

Anton Troianovski for The Wall Street Journal Silverstein Properties delivered fuel cells to the tower site.




The fuel cells are one example of high-end energy efficiency. The old World Trade Center took in huge amounts of water from the Hudson River for cooling and energy generation. The new complex will include a smaller river-water plant to reduce the impact on the wildlife in the Hudson, and instead will take much of its electricity from the fuel cells, which use a chemical process to convert natural gas to electricity. The fuel cells are being paid for by the developers and the state of New York.
"If we can demonstrate that fuel cells work, that they can be highly effective, that they can achieve energy-saving goals, we hope that other owners of buildings and office buildings will choose to adopt them in the future," said Janno Lieber, who heads the WTC project project for developer Larry Silverstein.

Tower 4, which is being built by Mr. Silverstein, and Tower 1, being built by the Port Authority, are scheduled to be complete in 2013. The timing of the completion of towers 2 and 3 will depend on market conditions. On Oct. 23, a day when three of the fuel cells were being lowered into place, another crane was delivering some of the trees that will dot the 9/11 memorial.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 01:51 PM   #17256
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I wonder what they deliverin' in those trucks..I saw few last days..Two more today in early morning...They park them below that blue structure and from this angle we can't see what's goin' out of them..

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Old November 2nd, 2010, 02:19 PM   #17257
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Perhaps the glass pannels? Could be probably that
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 02:23 PM   #17258
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Perhaps the glass pannels? Could be probably that
Yes, those are glass pannels..

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Old November 2nd, 2010, 02:56 PM   #17259
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Glass pannels on the site...Those trucks deliverin' glass pannels..





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Old November 2nd, 2010, 04:28 PM   #17260
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What makes you think those trucks are delivering the glass panels? It would be great if this were the case, but those trucks could be delivering anything, so I'm just wondering why you think it's the glass panels?
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