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Old November 22nd, 2010, 03:17 PM   #17781
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Thanks for posting the picture, Martin ... it's a most elegant building. I hope they consider it a historic landmark so that it will never be demolished. This is a revolutionary step and truly a precursor to modern glass curtain wall skyscrapers such as One World Trade Center.

When I was referring to the earliest skyscrapers what I had in mind was the 10 story Home Insurance Building in Chicago (1885) or the 10 story Wainwright Building (1891) in St. Louis, which may be considered true skyscrapers because they had elevators to transport people to the higher floors.
We have lost a number of fine buildings in Liverpool but I think that Oriel Chambers is safe and that its importance in the development of building technology is now recognised. In fact, it has recently been refurbished and is considered quite a prestige address.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 03:44 PM   #17782
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Looks too good at night, thx for the pics !
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 04:42 PM   #17783
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Sorry for asking a probably stupid question but which company is doing the facade (production + installation)? AFAIK Viracon is supplying the glass but I couldn’t find out who does the facade itself. Any ideas guys?
Benson Industries from Portland Oregon.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 07:13 PM   #17784
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Sorry for asking a probably stupid question but which company is doing the facade (production + installation)? AFAIK Viracon is supplying the glass but I couldn’t find out who does the facade itself. Any ideas guys?
Benson Industries

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Old November 22nd, 2010, 07:31 PM   #17785
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They are working on materials that are transparent and stronger than steel. So expect to see even more transparent buildings in future with things like transparent columns.
Who is they?

Good progress on 1WTC
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 08:05 PM   #17786
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Core scaffolding jumped this morning. New vertical steel any day now.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 09:19 PM   #17787
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Core scaffolding jumped this morning. New vertical steel any day now.
Hopping for good weather..
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 10:07 PM   #17788
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Thought Flatron Building is NYC's first and oldest skyscraper?
Gooderham building in Toronto was well before the Flat Iron.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 10:19 PM   #17789
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+ That would be like the core takes whole building on her self..Yes, the core is the stronest part of the building but it has some limits too..You have to bolt those beams commin' out of the core to something to take the weight of everything on that floor...It's seriously impossible even to imagine something like he said...
Yes, except for one building over 100m (that I know of) in the world that has no load on the outside of the building:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...s_building.jpg
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:10 AM   #17790
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:25 AM   #17791
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Ehhh. I wish they would have just rebuilt the original twin towers. I think the new 1wtc looks good, but I like the original way more.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:52 AM   #17792
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+ That would be like the core takes whole building on her self..Yes, the core is the strongest part of the building but it has some limits too..You have to bolt those beams commin' out of the core to something to take the weight of everything on that floor...It's seriously impossible even to imagine something like he said...
What you describe is a "tree" structure. Although I have seen many on paper, including a mile high tower designed by Frank Lloyd Wright, I have seen very few actually built.

The problem is, like trees, they sway far too much in the wind. They just aren't rigid enough.

Tower One is a "tube/tree hybrid" the core being the tree part and the tube is the perimeter, also called "Wind Frames" consisting of the columns and spandrel beams with moment connections at all beam to column connections.

The Twins were a "Tube" structure. The Sears Tower is a "Bundled Tube" design.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 01:43 AM   #17793
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I wonder why the slow down on the cladding? Maybe they weren't happy with the alignment?
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 02:33 AM   #17794
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this building rocks! and i have to say its quite an improvement to the old world trade centres which were quite boring... although they were a great symbol of economic power when it came down to the looks of them they were quite drab...this is a step on the right direction. i wish they hadn't come down the way they did though :'(
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 06:16 AM   #17795
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This tower is looking real good now...
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:53 AM   #17796
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I love how New York is going to beat Taipei at its own game by having a huge spire, like when it passed the Sears Tower and Twins by putting up a decorative spire. Eat it
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:56 AM   #17797
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I love how New York is going to beat Taipei at its own game by having a huge spire, like when it passed the Sears Tower and Twins by putting up a decorative spire. Eat it
who cares the tallest is in dubai it's not a 1up if you dont beat the #1
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 08:17 AM   #17798
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I love how New York is going to beat Taipei at its own game by having a huge spire, like when it passed the Sears Tower and Twins by putting up a decorative spire. Eat it
you mean the petronas towers? Taipei 101 beats them both by roof height as well as pinnacle height.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 09:24 AM   #17799
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I think he means the original WTC twins....
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:46 AM   #17800
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What you describe is a "tree" structure. Although I have seen many on paper, including a mile high tower designed by Frank Lloyd Wright, I have seen very few actually built.

The problem is, like trees, they sway far too much in the wind. They just aren't rigid enough.

Tower One is a "tube/tree hybrid" the core being the tree part and the tube is the perimeter, also called "Wind Frames" consisting of the columns and spandrel beams with moment connections at all beam to column connections.

The Twins were a "Tube" structure. The Sears Tower is a "Bundled Tube" design.
Yeah, I know about the mile hight tower..I was reading about it in the Wright's books...Gotta say this "tree" structure is really interesting and challenging...I saw a few proposals on this forum too...I hope we'll see more of it in the future...
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