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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:11 AM   #18361
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:28 AM   #18362
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That thing is being built disturbingly close to the other buildings. Its presence and shadow will eclipse everything around it. Eight years old children shouldn't plan the location of such a big construction.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 04:26 AM   #18363
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its new york bro, if anything thats what makes it such a vibrant thriving city is the proximity of everything to eachother.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 05:14 AM   #18364
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That thing is being built disturbingly close to the other buildings. Its presence and shadow will eclipse everything around it. Eight years old children shouldn't plan the location of such a big construction.
It's called "being a real city". More cities should try it.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 05:58 AM   #18365
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That thing is being built disturbingly close to the other buildings. Its presence and shadow will eclipse everything around it. Eight years old children shouldn't plan the location of such a big construction.
There's approximately 70 feet between 1WTC and the Verizon Building, its closest building (based on a pixel analysis of the site plan). The Empire State Building only has 55 feet separating it from its neighboring building to the south and its neighbor to the west is directly rubbing up adjacent to the building. The Chrysler Building's closest neighbor is about 40 feet away (unless you count the building rubbing directly against the side of it on its other side). And if you look at a Google Maps satellite photo of downtown, almost EVERY building is only separated by the surrounding buildings by about 30-40 feet maximum. The 70 foot distance between 1WTC and the Verizon Building is HUGE by Manhattan standards. And plus, this is only on one side of the building! All other sides have huge distances from the nearest building.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 07:13 AM   #18366
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Old December 19th, 2010, 07:58 AM   #18367
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That thing is being built disturbingly close to the other buildings. Its presence and shadow will eclipse everything around it. Eight years old children shouldn't plan the location of such a big construction.
The footprints of the twins drove the location more than anything else, I think. 3 more highrises are going on this site, as well. The "8 year olds" that designed the site did very well, in most folks opinion.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:09 AM   #18368
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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:09 AM   #18369
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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:01 AM   #18370
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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #18371
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the cladding is gorgeous, and the photos are great. Do you know what kind of camera is that, because the quality is unbelievable.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:20 PM   #18372
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Very happy this is finally happening after 10 years of waiting!!!!
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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:00 PM   #18373
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10 years? It is not even close to 10 years yet.

Great updates! I really love cladding a lot! It is going to be beautiful tower for sure!
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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:05 PM   #18374
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The glazing is very nice but I can't help but feel for all the poor migrating birds when the entire complex is finished. So much sky-reflecting glass. There are going to be thousands of dead birds dropping to the base of all of these buildings every day.

It happens less around towers that employ deeper coloured glass and spandrel, such as The Milenium Hotel or Trump World Tower. And almost never around granite, brick or stone structures.

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Old December 19th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #18375
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The corner cladding is wonderful! As for dead birds, I wonder if that was taken into account by the builders who designed the cladding?
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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:26 PM   #18376
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It's big problem in downtown Toronto. Every year thousands of migrating songbirds die at the foot of these glass towers. And Toronto's towers are of various cladding matertials. There aren't four massive sky-coloured buildings all in the same spot in Toronto.

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Bird-skyscraper collisions is a problem in urban areas. Several major cities like Toronto in Canada and New York City in the United States have programs to abate this, such as Toronto's Fatal Light Awareness Program (FLAP) and New York City's Lights Out New York, a program of New York City Audubon an environmental organization. According to FLAP, between one and nine million birds die each year in the city from hitting skyscrapers due to mistaking reflective windows for open sky, or being drawn to lights at night.
But those programs only address the lights inside these towers at night, for migrating birds in the Spring and Autumn. They do nothing to address the carnage from mirrored glass that daytime fliers mistake for open sky.

I wonder if there is an audible warning system available to scare off birds?
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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #18377
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Another e.g. of humans are bad for the environment.
Pretty soon this baby will break free of the "tabletop" of lower Manhattan.
Cladding makes the building look larger.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 10:00 PM   #18378
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the cladding is gorgeous, and the photos are great. Do you know what kind of camera is that, because the quality is unbelievable.
Its a Canon Powershot 10 Megapixel camera, 2 years old. I need a new one actually. But thanks!
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Old December 20th, 2010, 02:33 AM   #18379
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I dont like how the 4th row corner piece of cladding is one large bit of glass, it looks out of place as there is no join to continue on with the cladding below it. Probably the only way they could do it though, and probably wont be noticable in the overall scheme of things. just looks strange in the close ups.
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Old December 20th, 2010, 03:31 AM   #18380
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10 years? It is not even close to 10 years yet. !
9 and a quarter years is close enough.
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