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Old January 7th, 2011, 05:27 PM   #18781
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what do you guess will be its height by the end of march? I guess abt 65 floors tall and ***feet???
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Old January 7th, 2011, 05:40 PM   #18782
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Depends on the question: What happens when no one is around to maintain stuff?

http://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people

http://www.history.com/videos/grand-...ng-ground-zero
Then nobody will care.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #18783
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[QUOTE=Otie;70181379]January 4th, 2011 by menicknick



What's that smoke coming out from the hose ?
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Old January 7th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #18784
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What's that smoke coming out from the hose ?
It's steam. New York City is a very old city by American standards, and Con Edison operates the largest steam system in the United States. Many cities in the Northeast use at least limited steam to heat their buildings. New York City is more exhaustive than most.

When you see steam coming from the manhole covers, it's caused by cold run off in the sewers hitting the steam pipes and vaporizing.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #18785
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I can't believe this thing is 600ft already.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 08:06 PM   #18786
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Here is a novel question. How long a lifespan for this building are the architects thinking when they design it and choose materials for everything (i.e. plumbing, wiring etc.). There must be a general idea -300 years, 500 years? I really have no idea. Maybe Zensteeldude or someone in the business might know.

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New buildings are not meant to last forever... sustainability says that if a building is getting old u have to ''disarm it'' not destroy it in order to reuse the materials in other constructions or for another use... so the materials should be tough to last as long as the usefull lifetime of the building and than go somewhere else.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #18787
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More snow!

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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:22 PM   #18788
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really doesn't look like 600 ft, but I believe it coz it's NYC!
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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:28 PM   #18789
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Cool! The snow on the safety nets kinda looks like cladding.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #18790
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Old January 7th, 2011, 10:08 PM   #18791
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New buildings are not meant to last forever... sustainability says that if a building is getting old u have to ''disarm it'' not destroy it in order to reuse the materials in other constructions or for another use... so the materials should be tough to last as long as the usefull lifetime of the building and than go somewhere else.
Half right. As a rule of thumb, a building is replaced when the land it's sitting on has become more valuable than the building itself. Now...when you build a $3.2 billion tower on a plot of land like this, it's going to be centuries before the land appreciates to that level, especially as ongoing upgrades will likely keep increasing the building's value. At that point, the building is likely to have been landmarked, which means that it will be maintained beyond what is normally economical. You can't just tear it down.

As for how long a landmarked building can be maintained, no one really knows. Even old steel structures like the Eiffel Tower aren't old enough for metal fatigue and persistent low level corrosion to be a problem. Given the painstaking care given to old wooden and masonry buildings, I'd imagine you could do a lot with a building like this, up to and including replacing significant parts of it. However, it will be several hundred years after everyone currently posting on this board is dead before we'll see a good example that we could draw upon.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #18792
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It's steam. New York City is a very old city by American standards, and Con Edison operates the largest steam system in the United States. Many cities in the Northeast use at least limited steam to heat their buildings. New York City is more exhaustive than most.

When you see steam coming from the manhole covers, it's caused by cold run off in the sewers hitting the steam pipes and vaporizing.

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Old January 7th, 2011, 11:42 PM   #18793
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Jesus, how much glass went up today?
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Old January 7th, 2011, 11:54 PM   #18794
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I'm not sure if Jesus will answer here.

But there is real good progress on the cladding.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 01:14 AM   #18795
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Old January 8th, 2011, 02:27 AM   #18796
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Very nice shot.

Won't be long now tell the DB is history. Tower One is just a few short months from being the tallest building in lower Manhattan and we got alot less snow than was predicted.

Onwords and upwords !!!!!!!
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Old January 8th, 2011, 03:31 AM   #18797
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mods, can we get rid of the spam please.

permanent bans are nice.

Ask and Ye shall receive, thanks mods.

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Old January 8th, 2011, 03:58 AM   #18798
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Yeah Looks like it's spamming season again. Time to dust of the good ol' ban.

The last picture is stunning btw. Gives a good sense of the scale of everything. You're going to be overwhelmed once everything is finished. And that's a good thing!
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Old January 8th, 2011, 06:39 AM   #18799
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How come they haven't filled the hole in the corner yet?
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Old January 8th, 2011, 06:51 AM   #18800
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whats that they are building behind 7wtc?
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