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Old August 22nd, 2007, 11:07 PM   #1901
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130 Liberty has nothing at all to do with construction of the Freedom Tower. In any case, no matter what, the groundbreaking for towers 3 and 4 WILL take place within 4 months. If you think they're not going to start building once that timer in 7WTC reaches 0, you have problems.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:04 AM   #1902
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:13 AM   #1903
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We can all see the site whenever we want. Are we supposed to be seeing something interesting in that image?
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:19 AM   #1904
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^There are forms going up around the leftmost tower crane. It might be the start of the FT's core.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:35 AM   #1905
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The foundation differs very much from those seen on other sites. No piles visible, no foundation raft. Those cranes look like they have been set up on a parking lot. Cant wait to see some concrete emerging towards sky. Its just taking too long I think.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 01:00 AM   #1906
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DID I MISS SOMETHING?
WHY IS THREAD SHOWING 1775 FEET
yah you did. It's just the rounding due to the tower being 541m, it will be 1776 so do not worry
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 01:19 AM   #1907
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The foundation differs very much from those seen on other sites. No piles visible, no foundation raft. Those cranes look like they have been set up on a parking lot. Cant wait to see some concrete emerging towards sky. Its just taking too long I think.
Well, they use the piles off the old WTC that have been driven in back in the old days...

And they build on old concrete that was intact from the 9/11 drama. So it almost doesnt need any new piles to driven in.

About the raft: They are assembeling them in the comming months (correct me iff i am wrong)

By the end off the year, this thing could start to rise above street level.

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Old August 23rd, 2007, 01:25 AM   #1908
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As that picture shows it seems formwork is up to pour concrete and make the core rise. For those wondering about the piles, there is no need for any, the cranes are sitting ontop of concrete that is already poured onto the bedrock (which is exposed).

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Old August 23rd, 2007, 03:24 AM   #1909
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werent 4 cranes going to be erected on the core?? why there are only 2?
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 03:50 AM   #1910
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A bird told me that more tower cranes will come in November.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 03:54 AM   #1911
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As that picture shows it seems formwork is up to pour concrete and make the core rise. For those wondering about the piles, there is not need for any, the cranes are sitting ontop concrete that is already poured onto the bedrock (which is exposed).
Also, the bedrock was blasted to provide a "notch" or "socket" for the downward thrust of the tower, in an article i read, it said they needed to blast down to bedrock that could handle around 20'000 PSI, or around 12' below the surface bedrock, then the concrete is poured into the sockets, along with the rebar, wherever steel columns are located, a small stack of "I" beams, two or three rows high, provides a base to spread the load of the column to the bedrock, and is also encased in concrete.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 07:23 AM   #1912
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it's a matter of one foot <_<
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 08:00 AM   #1913
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It's a matter of symbolism; as Libeskind himself said, no one, no where, no matter what, can surpass the height of Freedom Tower. It's going to be the most iconic structure on the planet, and with 200 Greenwich and the others next to it, hell, you can't get any better.


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Old August 23rd, 2007, 09:31 PM   #1914
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A bird told me that more tower cranes will come in November.
don't think so, but we'll see

btw...today i saw some progress on the left tower-crane. can anyone confirm that?
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 09:35 PM   #1915
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that render is incredible, Ebola!!!
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 10:31 PM   #1916
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btw...isn't that formwork arround the crane?
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 10:55 PM   #1917
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i love these near ground level pictures! gives a much better perspective on whats going on down there.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 10:55 PM   #1918
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130 Liberty has nothing at all to do with construction of the Freedom Tower. In any case, no matter what, the groundbreaking for towers 3 and 4 WILL take place within 4 months. If you think they're not going to start building once that timer in 7WTC reaches 0, you have problems.
Send a letter to the editor or just an email to the person who wrote this if you do not agree with it.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 11:00 PM   #1919
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It's a matter of symbolism; as Libeskind himself said, no one, no where, no matter what, can surpass the height of Freedom Tower. It's going to be the most iconic structure on the planet, and with 200 Greenwich and the others next to it, hell, you can't get any better.


WTC 3 is definately my favourite. It has a NY/Gotham look but is very modern at the same time. Perfect for the site. Rogers is a god of architecture, he very rarely slips up on his designs.

Regarding the symbolism thing though, I expect it will have alot more meaning in America than the rest of the world, but it is a nice touch to show that the terrorists haven't won.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 11:30 PM   #1920
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Yeah Tower 3 is by far the best to me because I love buildings that show of their structure.
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