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Old January 25th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #19281
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Old January 25th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #19282
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Hi All, Can anyone tell me what the construction height of the build will be in mid May, when I'll be in New york - Feet/ inches/ Metres whichever you guys prefer.

Ta in advance.
I'd say around the 72nd floor (880 feet).
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Old January 25th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #19283
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Imperial measurement was second nature to me as well... Then Canada converted to metric in the late 70's and all the people then hated it... I hated it... Now I don't even give it another thought... I know how much 250 milliliters is, how far 10 kilometers is and so on. I can figure in both systems and intrinsically understand what someone means if they say either measurement, miles or kilometers.

Furthermore, anyone under 30 years old in Canada wouldn't even know how far a mile is. If the States converted, the same thing would happen. You just adjust and move on.

And as psycho-Zensteelfreak would say... "You just deal!"


If we can't agree on metric or imperial, let's just start measuring the tower by floors.
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Old January 25th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #19284
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No, actually Latin America is the cultural reference. North America is a geographic reference.

Unlike islands, continents don't need to be completely separated by water. An example would be Asia and Europe.
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Central America is apart of North America. And there's water between the two contientent. Just like there's water between Manhattan and Long Island.
No, you can't count the Panama otherwise even Africa wouldn't be connected to Asia or the peloponnese to the rest of Greece

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No one wants to have to figure out how many liters of gas their car can take or about how far 61 meters is or how many kilos their dog weight when feet and pounds are already second nature to them.
In 5 yaers you wouldn't even notice it anymore: in Europe everybody complained about the Euro at the beginning because they were not used to it and has to convert to the previous coin, but now nobody thinks about it anymore
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Old January 26th, 2011, 12:11 AM   #19285
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Come on people..Let's stop this shit..Seriously..
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Old January 26th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #19286
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+1 Everyone shut up about the metric/imperial thing and let's go back to the tower.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 12:34 AM   #19287
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I like how people who never post here. Come and write, just to bitch about what Zen said. The topic is dead. So you guys can go back to not posting in here.
Ya know what really cracks me up, people arguing with what I post AFTER I post a few pics of the prints.

WOW, I must have been really fed up with the rest of the world to post that !

Hey, this tower is all feet and inches, so the US of A is still not metric, cope. (I really wish we would convert, the metric system is child's play.)

This tower would make no sense if it were metric.

http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html

And there are a hundred others on line, but I like this one.

Back on topic, did I see a section of corner curtain wall on the northwest corner ! (It's called curtain wall, not cladding.)

I DID !!!!!!!!!!

Photo by BStyles over at Wired New York.


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Old January 26th, 2011, 01:41 AM   #19288
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No, you can't count the Panama otherwise even Africa wouldn't be connected to Asia or the peloponnese to the rest of Greece



In 5 yaers you wouldn't even notice it anymore: in Europe everybody complained about the Euro at the beginning because they were not used to it and has to convert to the previous coin, but now nobody thinks about it anymore
It isn't a matter of whether or not people would get used to it. The metric system has serious disadvantages. I have nothing against most of the measurements, but meters are no good. They just aren't precise. The Gran Torre Costanera Center is 300m. So is the Dubai Pearl. But the Dubai Pearl is taller by one foot. Those who are interested in preciseness care about that. But I don't want to cause an arguement. Is it really that hard to do both measurements? I think for now that is really the only option that will work for everyone.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 01:55 AM   #19289
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Do we have a clearer idea of what the glass on the base will look like? I can only find some 5 year old articles that describe "prism-like" rainbow reflecting bomb proof glass. I've been curious about this for awhile.
Take a look in this thread...Only 3 pages of it..Page 2 is what you're lookin' for..
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Old January 26th, 2011, 02:06 AM   #19290
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Do we have a clearer idea of what the glass on the base will look like? I can only find some 5 year old articles that describe "prism-like" rainbow reflecting bomb proof glass. I've been curious about this for awhile.
Here's an article about it. STR's renders are great, but I don't think they show just how transparent the real thing will be.

http://www.azom.com/news.asp?newsID=25462

"...incorporate more than 2,000 pieces of prismatic glass and welded aluminum screens."

"Starphire ultra-clear glass uses a proprietary low-iron formulation that makes it the industry’s clearest, most transparent architectural glass."


The lobby glass of 1 Bryant Park also uses PPG's Starphire glass. Here is a picture from their website. If you visit the website you can see a much larger version.

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Old January 26th, 2011, 02:25 AM   #19291
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***sorry for the off topic***
Many years later, we in Canada still don't like the metric system.
7.5L/100km ? is this good or bad? we still can't figure it out!
30 miles/gallon, good, 40 better. (Canadian or American gallons)
Ask any teenager how big is a decimeter, they still have no clue.
Even though they are taught the metric system only,
they still are more comfortable with the imperial system.
.....why.....
Because the units are based on things you can see.
inch = last bone in your thumb.
foot = a man's foot.
yard = length of an arm, or an average stride.
etc.
Accurate, no, but for everyday items, it works great.
Living so close to the States, we are bombarded with the
imperial system on TV, radio, and News.

Just like this site is English only, (which some people still don't follow this rule)
The Mods should make a decision, Imperial, metric, or both!
Maybe, If the building is in North America,
(which includes all of central America and the Caribbean)
than both should be used, in other locations, metric should be used.

1000ft = approx. 300m = supertall, that's all you really need to know!

(back to topic)
When this building passes WTC7, that's when more people will start
to really get excited about it. It will also look larger as more cladding is installed.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #19292
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56th floor, 666ft 8in.



No kidding.
Is that's 20 299.68 cm + 20.32 cm= 20 320 cm= 203.2 m

Correct?
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Old January 26th, 2011, 03:26 AM   #19293
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It isn't a matter of whether or not people would get used to it. The metric system has serious disadvantages. I have nothing against most of the measurements, but meters are no good. They just aren't precise. The Gran Torre Costanera Center is 300m. So is the Dubai Pearl. But the Dubai Pearl is taller by one foot. Those who are interested in preciseness care about that. But I don't want to cause an arguement. Is it really that hard to do both measurements? I think for now that is really the only option that will work for everyone.
Oh no we are doomed...
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Old January 26th, 2011, 04:02 AM   #19294
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For us who have used the metric system all our lives, we definitely have an idea what a decimeter is. The metric system is accurate because it has a scientific definition. It is the standard. As for me I cannot comprehend the imperial system. It depends on how you see it. Somebody like me might prefer the metric system and others the imperial system. But one cannot question the accuracy of either especially the metric system.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 04:24 AM   #19295
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It isn't a matter of whether or not people would get used to it. The metric system has serious disadvantages. I have nothing against most of the measurements, but meters are no good. They just aren't precise. The Gran Torre Costanera Center is 300m. So is the Dubai Pearl. But the Dubai Pearl is taller by one foot. Those who are interested in preciseness care about that. But I don't want to cause an arguement. Is it really that hard to do both measurements? I think for now that is really the only option that will work for everyone.
Ok, you clearly don't uderstand the metric system.
1ft=0.3048m = 3.048dm = 30.48cm
You can easely say that building is 300m 30 cm and 4.8 mm. Or just that building is 300.3048m.You can go as precise as you want in metres. It is a decimal system.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 04:31 AM   #19296
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This tower is not metric, suffer.

Or never hear my input again.

FYI, I have a full set of prints.

The clowns convert to imperial or I leave. Simple.

I'm sick of foreigner silliness imposing there way on this tower, it is imperial or nothing.

They can convert to metric, they are just lazy.
Wow, what a wanker.


Anyway, does anyone else think it looks a little like the Lunatic Pandora from Final Fantasy 8 at this point?
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Old January 26th, 2011, 05:08 AM   #19297
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Ya know what really cracks me up, people arguing with what I post AFTER I post a few pics of the prints.

WOW, I must have been really fed up with the rest of the world to post that !

Hey, this tower is all feet and inches, so the US of A is still not metric, cope. (I really wish we would convert, the metric system is child's play.)

This tower would make no sense if it were metric.

http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html

And there are a hundred others on line, but I like this one.

Back on topic, did I see a section of corner curtain wall on the northwest corner ! (It's called curtain wall, not cladding.)

I DID !!!!!!!!!!

Photo by BStyles over at Wired New York.


Link to the pic if it does not display.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...a/SAM_1228.jpg
Zen, don't let all the whiners get you down, we really appreciate the expertise you bring here.

OTOH 1776 meters would have been much better!
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Old January 26th, 2011, 06:14 AM   #19298
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Look with all to respect to everyone here on this thread and forum, cant we just stop arguing and lets go back on being on subject TOWER 1 WORLD TRADE CENTER. if some of us want to measure with feet then ok but if others want to meausre in meters its ok as well, just as long as we stay on subject that all it counts, its not the language of number that counts, what counts is that we stay on subject and make this a nice place to post and share knowledge, pics, and renderings on One World Trade Center.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 08:06 AM   #19299
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Everybody else can cry on these threads but Zen can't speak his mind. Now that I got a problem with.
I think he's spoke his mind, loud and clear. Rather childishly in my opinion.
If we don't all play the game to his rules he'll take his ball home.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 10:17 AM   #19300
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I'd say around the 72nd floor (880 feet).
Thanks for the info spectre000
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