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I love this piece of news in particular, more than $300 million dollars are invested into agriclture in Malanje by the government to start agro-industrial private investment in the region! And into the bargain the dam is also under construction for reliable power supply(see photo)
Malanje: Governo investe mais de 300 milhões de dólares no polo agro-industrial Barragem de Kapanda impulsiona desenvolvimento agro-industrial de Malanje Malanje, 06/06/2007 - Trezentos e 24 milhões de dólares norte- Americanos é valor que está a ser investido pelo Governo no polo agro-industrial de Capanda, na província de Malanje. O facto foi revelado hoje (quarta-feira) à Angop, em Malanje, pelo vice-governador provincial para área social, Gaspar Neto. Segundo referiu, estes investimentos visam ressurgir a actividade agro-industrial na província, paralisada pela guerra, nas últimas duas décadas. O responsável frisou que, o surgimento do polo agro-industrial na província vai permitir dinamizar a actividade das pequenas indústrias, tais como moageiras e panificadoras, criar mais emprego e contribuir para o desenvolvimento económico da região. Durante o conflito militar, o parque industrial de Malanje, que compreendia a Cotonang-fábrica de algodão e de óleo alimentar, descasque de arroz, indústria metalomecânica e de rações animais, ficou paralisado. Gaspar Neto anunciou, por outro lado, estar já em curso obras de terraplanagem da área onde serão implantadas as infra-estruturas habitacionais e industriais, afectas ao projecto agro-industrial de Capanda. Por outro lado, instou aos investidores públicos e privados, no sentido de explorarem não apenas o sector agro-industrial, como também os serviços de lavandaria, limpeza, consultoria, cinema, sapataria, alfaiataria e outros oficios, cujas necessidades se fazem sentir na província, para o crescimento do potencial económico da região. O polo agro-industrial localizado em Capanda abarca os municípios de Cacuso, Malanje e Cangandala, e é tutelado pelos ministérios da Indústria, Energia e Águas, Agricultura e Desenvolvimento Rural e governo da província. Malanje Location
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More predominantly physical infratructure news!
Train construction in Huila province is going on smoothly Huíla: Reabilitação do Caminho-de-Ferro de Moçâmendes decorre a bom ritmo Quote:
Reabilitação do troço rodoviário Funda/Catete atinge fase de conclusão Quote:
Zaire: Obras no troço Yenga/Tomboco permitem melhorias no trânsito Quote:
Obras do segundo lote da via Expresso iniciam-se Quote:
Reconstruction of the administrative, social and technical buildings in Kuito is in full swing! Recuperação de edifícios no Kuito poderá terminar no segundo semestre deste ano Quote:
Namibe: Obras no edifício do hospital de Saco-Mar decorre dentro dos prazos Quote:
More construction of modern municipal hospitals in Moxico Moxico: Governo retoma reabilitação do hospital municipal do Luau Quote:
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I think what we are witnessing in Angola is the biggest infrastrucure programme ever witnessed on the continent. Sure, a LOT of it is dissapearing into the pockets of politicians but a lot is going on development too.
If Nigeria, Gabon, Zaire etc had done this with their oil/mineral monies.......can you just imagine. |
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I hate it when people are lumping the whole world into one big bag! Secondly, Nigeria has invested billions into infrastructure so far, it has the densest web of roads and highways within Africa (outside SA) and those investments have not been realized with coconuts and beans but with oil in the heady 70´s till the mid 80´s! And new roads are still getting built, more in Nigeria than anywhere else in Africa! The problem is MAINTENANCE IN NIGERIA/AFRICA! But you are back from Brazil, how was it like? Did you enjoy your trip? You can send me a PM
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Those countries are VERY comparable. They received billions from their natural resources after independence and have spent it unwisely. In Gabon, not so much in politicians pockets but it white elephant projects, in Nigeria and Zaire.......well, we know where the money went to. Its estimated that Nigeria has lost $300 billion in corruption over the last few decades. Can you even imagine what could have been done with that money? It has NOTHING to do with maintenance, the development that DID take place was only a tiny fraction of what SHOULD have taken place. Its only now that they're expanding the rail system for example.
Anyway, back to the topic, kudos to Angola. |
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You are comapring Russia with Qatar and Egypt, all have massive natural ressources but they are all incomparable!
Regarding Nigeria, unfortunately, a hell of of money was siphoned off but there was also massive construction in the 70´s till mid 80´s! And we have talked the matter over and over again that measures have become stricter. Foreign exchange resserves and economic reforms like the ones the country has witnessed, would have been unimaginabale in Nigeria ´s past! Concerning Gabon - a small oil producer - , you are right a lot of money was spent on "senseless" white elephants there like the construction of a $3bn dollar train crossing the country ( which has been privatized by now) and so on and so forth but those days are even gone there and management has markedly improved since the aimless 70´s/ 80´s when the country got "rich over night"! That country´s furture still looks good, however! As for Zaire, I know too little of that country to say anything but it is just like a continent within the continent! Maintenance is however still a major problem in Nigeria and allover Africa. |
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These countries are definetly comparable-poor resource-rich countries which wasted their revenues in some way on another. That makes them VERY comparable. You should read economic articles and you will see that these countries (always Nigeria and Zaire the classic cases, less often Gabon) often pop up together when economists discuss this topic.
I repeat, for you, the development that DID take place in Nigeria was a FRACTION of what should have taken place. I repeat, for you, $300 billion siphoned off over 40 years. $300 billion!!!!! |
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But once again Gabon - Zaire and Nigeria are incomparable! Economist often mention the term "dutch disease" when they talk about country´s such as Venezuela, Russia, Gabon, Nigeria, Indonesia and even mighty Saudi Arabia etc.! |
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Gabons oil reserves are smaller but in proportion to the size of the population they are more, and thats what counts. Thats why Norway, with a population of under 5 million is the richest country on earth.
Nigeria and Zaire are always talked about together as the classic cases of lost oppurtunity in natural resource-rich Africa countries post-independence. No where else did such large amounts of money dissapear into politicans pockets. Gabon is often talked together with Nigeria and Eq Guinea when talking about African countries which wasted their oil money. I repeat, $300 billion Matthias, $300 billion.....thats three hundred billion dollars. |
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Just in case you didnt get it, $300 billion!!!
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This is what Gabon did with its oil money. How sad. Thankfully with oil running dry they will have to be more sensible now.
"Gabon is at the beginning of the end of its life as an oil producer. Without new finds, output is expected — optimistically — to halve in the next 20 years and stop in 30. And oil's legacy? A country that ranks 124th on the human-development index, but where Hummer and BMW dealerships thrive. Libreville itself has ranked among the Top 10 most expensive cities in the world for most of the past 20 years. But beyond these privileged circles, there is little evidence of a trickle-down effect. Opposition leader Pierre Mamboundou says his party, the Gabonese People's Union, figures that 15,000 people in Gabon hold 80% of the nation's wealth" Even in a country that is four-fifths rain forest and has coastal waters full of fish, the government — which didn't respond to repeated interview requests — appears to lack a compelling vision of what industries might take over where oil leaves off. There is the additional economic burden of importing nearly all of the country's food from Europe. Entrepreneurial spirit has all but evaporated: while rich Gabonese may fund new businesses, most are set up and run by Europeans. And the nation is afflicted by a widespread sense of moral degeneration — from bureaucratic corruption to petty theft to sexual violence. "The lack of standards shown by Gabon's leadership has generated a complete immorality in the country," says a European economist in Gabon. "That's the real curse of oil." |
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This article is for you. A great article which talks of Nigeria, Gabon and Angola. And how Sao Tome will hopefully not follow their paths. Seriously, a really good article, one of the best I have read in a long while. Enjoy.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...6751-1,00.html |
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Shut up! you idiot pissing on Africa, get away and fuck the Western world and its rascist press! Fuck it I could even write this about the USA or any other country! Rascist bullshit, US people hasn´t invested a lot of money in Gabon so they have no interest and that´s why they are fucking on this country!
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Malanje: Reabilitação das pontes sobre os rios Kwanza e Jombo inicia este ano
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Thanks for the articles Matt.
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For example: you're right when you say that sometimes the west does hold a few biases towards Africa. Sometimes, these biases seem excusable...many times, these biases seem blatantly obvious and unfair. And its true, these biases are there. You're not wrong when you say that. But you should also know that Popa isn't completely incorrect when he talks about some of the things going on in Africa. it's true, to an extent, that many nations in Africa, like nigeria, haven't done the best of jobs with what they have. You can cite several reasons for this: corruption, colonialism(inconsiderate drawing of the borders fueld eventual ethnic conflict in nigeria that held them back, etc, etc) and so on, but the fact does remain that these problems plague nigeria and several other african nations today. It's an unavoidable fact. At the same time, the media that may report correctly on at least a few of the problems in places like nigeria today, may never report on the successes we see in other parts of Africa like Botswana, or even namibia... and perhaps even gabon. Like i said-no one side is totally correct. Also, popa, you should remember that while it is true that Gabon has been having problems with oil and the fact that it will eventually run out, Gabon has not done badly with itself. It's overall level of infrastructure is decent as a whole, although it is true that maybe it potentially could be better. In any case, with an HDI ranking of 124, Gabon ranks just in the midsection of all nations...but that HDi puts it ahead of India. An interesting fact, that is. Why? Well, we do speak frequently about India and its successes; we don't always talk about particularly gruesome issues with regards to that nation. You can see sections on slums in Lagos all the time in the media, but I don't see these everyday for India. Gabon has achieved a similar level as a nation...but it doesn't appear to get as much credti from the media. For that matter, neither do namibia or Botswana. Perhaps this is because these are very small nations...but nevertheless, you should note that. Anyway, guys, just remember that there are two sides of this issue. Gabon has done many positive things, Popa, even though it is true that it could be better. Just remember not to denigrate it completely because what it has done is still nothing to spit at. And matthias, while it is true that the western media does have biases, they aren't completely wrong about everything. We have to be completely objective about these things. We don't need to fight and curse at each other, fellas. BTW, I still love this thread. great articles here, Matthias, I am following Angola's reconstruction zealously, it is an infinitely interesting subject. |
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Matthias, behave yourself, no swearing. OK?
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Popa1980, First of all I am sorry for insulting you but I just boiled over once again! It simply sucks so much that Western/US media write only bad, biased, uncritical, superficial and highly one-sided news on Africa by means of which they try to manipulate peoplé minds and downgrade countries that don´t desserve it. And I consider it highly insulting to describe Gabonese people as lazy and sexually obessive/violent. Gabon is not Babylon!
As I said I once traveled to that small country and I didn´t come across those people. On the contrary, the people whom my parents and myself met were very nice, peaceful and open-minded! It is simply pejorative and untrue to label them as "Babylonians". I wonder if the reporter has really travelled to all those three countries or if he is just a mere "arm-chair journalist" who hasn´t been on the ground personally and done some in-depth research before writing the article! ????With regard to Angola: Angola is just emerging out of conflict and four years is too early to condemn the entire nation after more than 30 years of war. The country needs time, please! Nigeria has inexcusably done bad with the $300bn that were siphoned off, no doubt about that! but let´s not forget that the stupid and self-centred military ruined the country and that since 1999 - despite the current Niger Delta crisis which is more a "business" than anything else, unfortunately - decisive and positive major steps were taken that are pointing in the right direction. Nobody can´t deny this! Naija is gowing more self-confident economically and strategically! As far as Gabon is concerned, of course some things went wrong in the past. As I said earlier, the country made some severe mismanagement faults which they regret more and more now (like building that multi-billion train, and bloating the public sector as a form to fight poverty, over-dependence on oil, rentier-state features, neglect of agriculture etc.) but by far not all is true what is said about Gabon in the TIME Magazine article! Here are just a few points the article is not shedding light upon.. 1.) Gabon has remained peaceful since independence from France in 1960 which allowed development. 2.) Gabon has helped with numerous peace initiatives across Africa. 3.) Gabon has a relatively strong urban middle-class and many Gabonese young people are studying hard in Gabon, Senegal, France or Québec! 4.) Gabonese students obtain money from the state for 4 years to complete their studies and there is free medical care for the poor, primary school is free of charge, Aids treatment is free for everyone affected, too. Gabon is one of the few countries that has established a social sytem (for the elderly for the sick that work in the formal sector and the state is even paying, I am not kidding for highly specialized treatment overseas!!). The state is currently looking for ways to allow every citizen especially those working in the informal sector to have access to a a universal social insurance! Moreover, the country has created an oild fund that keeps on growing, same for foreign exchange resserves! 5.) It is a blatant lie to say that Gabonese people are lazy or sexually violent or morally spoilt!! Where do they get the information from, please? A lot of young people are well-educated and intelligent people that have a deep love for their country (as any other African has for its own country) 6.) Gabon is on par with countries such as Namibia and Botswana in terms of HDI (into the bargain it is a middle-income country) If we use those indices as reference points, then we have to apply them without exceptions to all countries, (Gabon´s , Namibia and Botswana´s annual budget is almost the same and all three are not densely populated countries) 7.) Crime and violence is not any big problem in entire Gabon. It is a safe place to go to, believe me! 8.) Gabon´s oil doesn´t run out, they even said that in the 70´s and 80´s during the oil boom years and then they later discovered Rabi-Kounga, it is all just politics! (play with scarcity). Perenco has discovered a major oil field recently. And the offshore sector remains very promising! Chinese investors bought three oil big field concessions, France and Canada is exploring for oil in the offshore regions and signed a gas contract onshore, Indians are looking to invest into oil there, there is the "fight" between gabon and Equatorial Guinea about that "Coriscoa Islands", an area that is soaked in oil.......and even if the oil runs out some day, the country wouldn´t fall back to stone age as the article implicitly suggest. Gabon is immensely rich in other mineral ressources and it has a rich eco-system and an unspoiled nature and an educated workforce. Many people who visited the country have enjoyed it (that´s what I read in the many blogs or on various forums). They speak highly of this litlle country, so there is a lot of romm for tourism! Eco-tourism is emerging there, too! (creation of 13 national parks, more and more people get trained as eco-guides, lodges get built etc.)9.) Why is the francophone press writing positively or in a more balanced way about Gabon whereas the American press feature articles of horror about that tiny country? Could it be that there is the old Franco-Anglo/American rivalary again - beneath the surface? Let´s not forget that the USA is not at all dominant in Gabon 10.) As far as Sao tome and Principe is concerned, it doesn´t surprise me that they look positively at that country. Sao tome and Principe runs the risk of becoming an "American enclave" in Africa. They are planning to build a huge military base there from where they can control lucrative big oil markets better such as Nigeria or Angola, that´s no secret but a fact, it can also be read in "la Lettre du Continent" and other African or international media! So I do hope that Angola will help Sao Tome and Principe in the years to come so that it remains as "free" as possible! 11.) Time Magazine is renowed for its bad news coverage! Same for Newsweek! for example, apart from shedding light upon the horror scenarios of Africa, they also often bash the Arab World and blindly call them all terrorists! They write very badly about Latin America, too! The begin to write badly on China as well for fear of China´s growing might and influence in the world! Those articles can´t be taken at their face´s value but should be read attentively and with a highly critical mind! 12.) Again I have nothing against the American people but I am fed with their news coverage. Why do they hate Africa or Africans so much? Whenever there is hope they come with their mighty media organs and destroy it! This infuriates me profusely, it makes me sick! (Africa please wake up, it is high-time that there is an "Al Jazeerah of Africa")So, having said all that let´s stick to Angola´s reconstruction now, please! It is a thread about the new face of Angola and we should keep it this way! Popa1980, And once again sorry for my personal attacks but maybe you can understand my frustration with the press somehow |
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Tata´s in race for $3 bn Angola projec
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Head Of State To Inaugurate Ultra Modern Agrarian Institute in Malanje
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