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Old October 24th, 2010, 04:43 AM   #401
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I like your point of view,exept this part.
Why so? I would imagine that they wouldn't give a tower such as this a second thought in Moscow?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 06:08 AM   #402
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What they should do is tear down all those hideous commie blocks and build some more historic buildings.
so, uh... what does 'historic' mean, in your opinion...
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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:03 AM   #403
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Update: Okhta Center / RMJM
23 Oct 2010
By Karen Cilento — Filed under: Skyscrapers , Okhta Center, RMJM, Russia, St. Petersburg
http://www.archdaily.com/tag/okhta-center/



As we reported back in 2009, RMJM‘s proposed Okhta Center was the subject of heated debate as residents of St Peterburg’s wanted nothing to do with the tower which was regarded as a “symbol of political ego.” Yet, as Record shared, the tower is set to move ahead after receiving a construction permit from Glavgosekspertiza, the body in charge of issuing building permits. Towering 403 meters into the skyline, the building will become the highest in Europe and as we’ve seen with Nouvel’s proposal for 53rd Street, Pelli Clarke Pelli’s 15 Penn Plaza and Frank Gehry’s Beekman Tower, adding a big change to the skyline sparks big controversy. In St. Petersburg, approximately 3,000 people gathered to protest the project which is being developed by gas giant Gazprom and is backed by Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin. In addition to strong public opposition, BD reported that Russian authorities were reviewing RMJM’s design following a report from Unesco’s World Heritage Committee, which has repeatedly threatened to strip the city of its World Heritage Site status if the tower as originally planned is built. The tower still needs a construction permit from City Hall, which, as Record reported, has backed the project from the start.

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Old November 1st, 2010, 12:43 PM   #404
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There is a huge opposition to this project from so called "defenders" of the city. They think 400m skyscraper will spoil St-Petersburg historical view. They also found ruins of swedish wooden fortress at the construction site. Gazprom has promised to build 3d museum instead, but it is not Ok for "defenders".


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Old November 1st, 2010, 01:50 PM   #405
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They also found ruins of swedish wooden fortress at the construction site. Gazprom has promised to build 3d museum instead, but it is not Ok for "defenders".
It was always known there was a Swedish fortress on the site. So it is no surprise they "found" it, they are merely documenting the remains at the moment before continuing with construction. So the "defenders" were happy when a factory was on the site previously, but are now opposed to a building that respects the archaeology, creating a museum to celebrate it?
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 06:50 AM   #406
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I second that.
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Old November 4th, 2010, 07:43 AM   #407
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Arabtec CFO says Russian tower project is going ahead

By Bloomberg | Wednesday, 3 November 2010 12:48 PM


COMPANY CFO: Arabtec Holding’s chief financial officer Ziad Makhzoumi (ITP Images)

Arabtec Holding’s chief financial officer Ziad Makhzoumi said the company is going ahead with a plan to build a skyscraper in the center of St Petersburg, Russia.

“There were some complaints and objections from the different parts of the community and that have been addressed,” Makhzoumi said in Dubai on Wednesday.

OAO Gazprom Neft, the oil unit of Russia’s state natural-gas producer, plans to build what may become Europe’s tallest skyscraper in St. Petersburg. Arabtec is the contractor for the project.

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Well they would say that wouldn't they!?
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This tower is absolutely gorgeous. I disagree with the heritage types who seek to block this tower. It's too far from St Petersburg's historic core to diminish the old buildings. Peter the Great founded St Petersburg to be a great commercial and trading city, and to drag backward Russia into the modern mainstream of Europe. For those reasons I think he would heartily approve of the Okhta tower.
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This tower is absolutely gorgeous.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #410
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This tower is absolutely gorgeous. I disagree with the heritage types who seek to block this tower. It's too far from St Petersburg's historic core to diminish the old buildings. Peter the Great founded St Petersburg to be a great commercial and trading city, and to drag backward Russia into the modern mainstream of Europe. For those reasons I think he would heartily approve of the Okhta tower.
That's a good observation about Peter the Great. I hadn't considered that. No doubt he would be proud of a modern tower like this.
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Old November 13th, 2010, 08:56 AM   #411
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This tower is absolutely stunning. 10/10 but its present location makes it a 3/10. Could they not build it anywhere else? Sigh.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:06 AM   #412
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Old December 9th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #413
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This tower is absolutely gorgeous. I disagree with the heritage types who seek to block this tower.
http://www.fontanka.ru/2010/12/09/113/

Heritage types won. Current project is cancelled and construction is moved to another place.

It is not even known if new project will be a skyscraper.
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Old December 10th, 2010, 12:25 AM   #414
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http://themoscownews.com/russia/20101209/188268494.html

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Gazprom tower to be moved from central St. Petersburg
by Tom Washington at 09/12/2010 18:26


St. Petersburg’s historic skyline looks safe, after Gazprom’s planned sky-scraper has been given the push from the northern capital’s centre.

Petersburg City Hall announced on Wednesday that a new place to build will be decided soon, one week after mayor Valentina Matvienyenko told builders to steer clear of the UNESCO world heritage designated centre.
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**** yeah! Although the tower is truly amazing...
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Old December 10th, 2010, 01:39 AM   #416
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I'll bet they'll still build a supertall. Just further out. Maybe the city will zone a special neighborhood for modern high rises, like La Defence in Paris.
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Old December 10th, 2010, 08:19 AM   #417
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Good for St. Petersburg
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Old December 10th, 2010, 11:45 AM   #418
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Hurrah!!!!
Waiting for a new skyscraper district in St. Petersburg, one where this tower will not be alone, and will harmonically blend in the city landscape.
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Old December 10th, 2010, 08:32 PM   #419
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Hurahh!!!!!!!!!!!! MY CONGRADULATIONS TO ST. PETERSBURG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE NEW DESIGN FOR THE TOWER OKHTA CENTER

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Old December 10th, 2010, 11:38 PM   #420
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It was always known there was a Swedish fortress on the site. So it is no surprise they "found" it, they are merely documenting the remains at the moment before continuing with construction. So the "defenders" were happy when a factory was on the site previously, but are now opposed to a building that respects the archaeology, creating a museum to celebrate it?
The factory was built without anyone asking for permission either by tsar or soviet authorities. Today is hopefully is another time and situation. from the very beginning at the very least 30% (actually I think it is closer to 40%) of the city were against this tower. So defenders as you mockingly call them actually represent big chunk of population. besides - what is a big deal to find another place??? Wounded pride nothing else.
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