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Old February 20th, 2012, 05:04 AM   #2201
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http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/air-...l-routes-15653


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Tuesday, February 14, 2012, 14:00 Hrs [IST]

Air India planning to trim frequencies on long-haul routes

By TBM Staff | Mumbai


Exerpt: Apart from fuel bill and oil PSUs regularly cutting off supply to AI, the delay in induction of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft into the fleet also triggered this route-cut move. "With its 250 seats, the Dreamliner is the ideal size of aircraft for us. In the current season, it may not be possible to fill up the over-300 seat (that the B-777s are) to a break-even point. So the frequency of flights using this plane on sectors like Delhi-London and Delhi-Toronto is being reduced. The Dreamliner is now expected to make its debut in late summer and will be used to launch flights to Australia," said a senior official.
Hopefully YYZ sees ET and MS start sooner than later. With CX and and now AI reducing frequency, it may not be a great year this year.
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:02 PM   #2202
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BTW, no more guessing. An A330 comes up in Alitalia's res system as of mid October. I am very pleased. Btw no news for LOT as they still have B763 in the system. Cheers.

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Old February 26th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #2203
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Old February 27th, 2012, 04:59 AM   #2204
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We should be getting a pic of AF A380 diverted from YUL. I can't wait to see it because it's the second A380 that landed here a part from EK A380.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 07:05 AM   #2205
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BTW, no more guessing. An A330 comes up in Alitalia's res system as of mid October. I am very pleased. Btw no news for LOT as they still have B763 in the system. Cheers.

LOT will receive 2-3 787's by the end of the year. Further 5-6 will be delivered in 2013, which gives a total of 8 787s. The plan is to use 4 787s on North American Routes and 4 787s on Asian routes. The first route that will be serviced by the 787 will be Beijing, followed by Tokyo. The 787s on North American routes will replace the 767s in 2013 simply because the Asian routes are more competitive.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 02:44 AM   #2206
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LOT will receive 2-3 787's by the end of the year. Further 5-6 will be delivered in 2013, which gives a total of 8 787s. The plan is to use 4 787s on North American Routes and 4 787s on Asian routes. The first route that will be serviced by the 787 will be Beijing, followed by Tokyo. The 787s on North American routes will replace the 767s in 2013 simply because the Asian routes are more competitive.
Asian routes eh, as I have expected. Btw, I am wondering how are they going to price their premium economy. I am sure this was probabaly talked over in your Polish forum. It is going to priced double over the regular economy, as I have seen on British Airways and so on.. Any idea? I am sure Canada - Poland market is very sensitive for those not flying in business. That's why I would like to know how much room there is to bump those fares up in the PE. Any idea?
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Old February 28th, 2012, 08:14 AM   #2207
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Asian routes eh, as I have expected. Btw, I am wondering how are they going to price their premium economy. I am sure this was probabaly talked over in your Polish forum. It is going to priced double over the regular economy, as I have seen on British Airways and so on.. Any idea? I am sure Canada - Poland market is very sensitive for those not flying in business. That's why I would like to know how much room there is to bump those fares up in the PE. Any idea?
No idea as to how they will price the PE. You are right, the Canada - Central Europe market is price-sensitive however, with Asian routes offered, LOT can make money on passengers travelling to Asia via Warsaw. At the moment, it is mostly individuals visiting relatives in Europe who use LOT's service. This passenger segment is price sensitive. What they need is time sensitive passengers - business passengers who are willing to pay for the PE or Business Class seats. The 767s that fly between Warsaw and north America generate no profit, LOT has not given up on these routes yet (did not do what CSA and Malev did) as with the 787, they will definitely generate a profit, hopefully carrying business passengers between North America and Europe/Asia.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 04:08 PM   #2208
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Latest word is that the 787 will be arriving on March 1, at about 1400hrs....will try to get official confirmation...once it arrives, it will be parked in one of the AC hangars for the duration of its visit.....
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Old February 29th, 2012, 05:20 AM   #2209
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No idea as to how they will price the PE. You are right, the Canada - Central Europe market is price-sensitive however, with Asian routes offered, LOT can make money on passengers travelling to Asia via Warsaw. At the moment, it is mostly individuals visiting relatives in Europe who use LOT's service. This passenger segment is price sensitive. What they need is time sensitive passengers - business passengers who are willing to pay for the PE or Business Class seats. The 767s that fly between Warsaw and north America generate no profit, LOT has not given up on these routes yet (did not do what CSA and Malev did) as with the 787, they will definitely generate a profit, hopefully carrying business passengers between North America and Europe/Asia.
Sounds about right. I doubt if Alitalia can make profit even in the summer season on those older B767s. LOT's B767s are even less reliable because they are one decade older than Aliatlia's B767. The business travelers look for reliable service. Than they want lie flat beds/seats in the front. No wonder why Alitalia decided to bring on their new A330s. Lets just hope LOT can hold on until those 787 birds arrive.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 09:39 PM   #2210
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I wasn't out to see it, but apparently the 787 landed on runway 23 at about 1:44pm today...should be in the AC hangar by now....
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 02:32 AM   #2211
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I wasn't out to see it, but apparently the 787 landed on runway 23 at about 1:44pm today...should be in the AC hangar by now....
Sorry, I wanted to go out but it was sort of cloudy. Lets hope we get some shots.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:10 AM   #2212
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Over at airliners.net there's a couple of threads with pics and video of the event...



http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5402243/

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5402438/
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 05:03 AM   #2213
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Looks like Ethiopian airlines want the 5th freedom from FCO to serve YYZ. That may play the role for delaying this route. We will see the outcome.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 07:19 AM   #2214
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For our African friends here in Toronto. It will be my pleasure to snap a photo of her. Btw is this the first time in YYZ era to be linked with African destination?

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Old March 4th, 2012, 12:00 PM   #2215
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I was in Frankfurt three days ago, and saw the ANA 787. Our bus actually drove right next to it. The plane is bigger than I thought when you see it real life.
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Hey guys i have a few pictures of the 788 out on the ramp. they where taken with a phone so not the greatest of quality.








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Old March 5th, 2012, 06:54 AM   #2220
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What's interesting about this article is the shortlist of destinations that AC pegs for the 787, whether it's for their first 7 or their remaining 30. They cite Guangzhou, Mumbai, Buenos Aires, Moscow, and Johannesburg as possible destinations from YYZ, YUL and YVR. One would have to assume that ALL of those destinations would be from YYZ.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ontent=2357402

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Air Canada will take delivery of seven of its 787s in 2014. It has ordered 37 of the planes, which seat 242 to 280 people, depending on the configuration. The preliminary schedule calls for the remaining aircraft to arrive from 2015 to 2019.

Air Canada has a shortlist of potential new flights departing from Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver, touting non-stop service to places such as Guangzhou in China and Mumbai in India – tapping into markets deemed too small to make economic sense for the larger Boeing 777. Other possible destinations include Moscow, Buenos Aires and Johannesburg.
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