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Old December 31st, 2014, 08:07 PM   #3841
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Question: What does Turkmenistan's airline have to do with the Punjabi community?
They would do what a lot of the other airlines do. Focus on the Punjabi community in Toronto (YYZ) and surrounding areas and have them fly their airline as a transit via their focus (hub) city to India etc.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 03:17 AM   #3842
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China Eastern to Start Boeing 777-300ER Service to Toronto from April 2015
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Update at 0600GMT 01JAN15

China Eastern this week has revised planned operation for Shanghai Pu Dong – Toronto route in Summer 2015 season. From 15APR15, Boeing 777-300ER aircraft will be operating this route 3 times a week, replacing Airbus A340-600. Planned service increase to daily, starting 11JUL15, remains unchanged (previously planned 4 weekly 777-300ER and 3 weekly A340-600).

MU207 PVG1200 – 1425YYZ 77W 357
MU208 YYZ1625 – 1910+1PVG 77W 357

Note this is the last route operated by A340-600, however further changes remain possible, as additional changes to overall Summer 2015 schedule will be released in the next few weeks.
http://airlineroute.net/2015/01/01/mu-yyz-apr15/
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Old January 6th, 2015, 02:45 PM   #3843
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Surprised no one mentioned this one...

Beijing to Toronto in June 2015. 3x per week. Also to Montreal. With a tag onto Havana.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6248770/

We knew it was coming, now we have a clue when.
Well, looks like it is Beijing-Montreal-Havana. Announced today and confirms what was posted. Now just waiting for Toronto to fall into place.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6275672/

CA879/80 Beijing-Montreal-Havana, start from 9-20, B773, 1/3/5
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Old January 7th, 2015, 04:08 PM   #3844
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Well, looks like it is Beijing-Montreal-Havana. Announced today and confirms what was posted. Now just waiting for Toronto to fall into place.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/6275672/

CA879/80 Beijing-Montreal-Havana, start from 9-20, B773, 1/3/5
To be honest, I can't see this route doing that well. I think the yields will be far too thin, but maybe I'm wrong.

Air China has to be close to a YYZ announcement now. Not sure what seems to be taking so long.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 03:42 AM   #3845
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To be honest, I can't see this route doing that well. I think the yields will be far too thin, but maybe I'm wrong.

Air China has to be close to a YYZ announcement now. Not sure what seems to be taking so long.
I'm beginning to have a feeling that Air China won't announce YYZ service soon, hopefully I'm wrong about that but wouldn't it have been mentionned with the other international routes for 2015? Maybe once the AC-CA JV gets finalized we'll see more expansion from Canada to China. Also, since the Havana tag seems to be with the YUL flight, would the possible Toronto flight be PEK-YYZ-PEK?

And for the Beijing-Montreal-Havana flight, it seems risky. I do believe however that YUL can work, but even with the Havana tag, a 777-300ER may be too much metal for the route. I can see it going to a 787-9 once they get them, but with that, I don't see the Havana tag lasting. If this route proves to be a 5th freedom one between Montreal and Havana, it'll be one heck of a way to get to Cuba and definitely one of the coolest 5th freedoms imo.

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Old January 8th, 2015, 04:18 AM   #3846
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Hm...clearly looking for VFR traffic among Toronto's Punjabi community.
Flight is designed for the Baltic countries. I think the tickets are not expensive compared with Aeroflot, which flew to Tornoto earlier.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #3847
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Caribbean Airways ending YYZ - GEO flights in Feb.

Caribbean Airlines from 25FEB15 is cancelling Georgetown – Toronto operation, currently served by Boeing 737-800 aircraft twice a week. Despite this nonstop cancellation, the airline will continue to offer daily 1-stop service via Port of Spain.

BW606 GEO1500 – 2030YYZ 738 25
BW607 YYZ2255 – 0615+1GEO 738 25

http://airlineroute.net/2015/01/07/bw-yyzgeo-feb15/
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Old January 8th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #3848
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Flight is designed for the Baltic countries. I think the tickets are not expensive compared with Aeroflot, which flew to Tornoto earlier.
That would make sense.
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Old January 10th, 2015, 11:42 PM   #3849
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Old January 11th, 2015, 02:13 AM   #3850
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I was driving a few weeks ago on the 404, and I saw MS (Egypt Air send an A330). Quickly grabbed my phone to get more info, and it showed that it was in fact an A330-200. I am guessing slow season for them as a result to sub the mighty B773ER..
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Old January 11th, 2015, 03:40 PM   #3851
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Flight is designed for the Baltic countries. I think the tickets are not expensive compared with Aeroflot, which flew to Tornoto earlier.
I don't think so... the baltic market is way too small for it. More likely Turkmenistan just needed a lay-over/fuel stop....
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Old January 11th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #3852
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I was driving a few weeks ago on the 404, and I saw MS (Egypt Air send an A330). Quickly grabbed my phone to get more info, and it showed that it was in fact an A330-200. I am guessing slow season for them as a result to sub the mighty B773ER..
They will operate with their 330 regularly until summer. They occasionally send their 77Ws to YYZ these days
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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:24 PM   #3853
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China Eastern delays Triple 7 to YYZ.

China Eastern in its recent schedule update has revised planned introduction of Boeing 777-300ER service on Shanghai Pu Dong – Toronto route. Previously scheduled from 15APR15, the airline now schedules service entry on 17JUN15.

The 777-300ER replaces A340-600 on this route, 3 times a week. Planned daily service from 11JUL15 remains unchanged.

MU207 PVG1200 – 1425YYZ 77W 357
MU208 YYZ1625 – 1910+1PVG 77W 357

http://airlineroute.net/2015/01/13/mu-yyz-s15update2/
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Old January 16th, 2015, 01:08 AM   #3854
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VERY surprised by this news...
Hainan is starting YUL service in June, plus the Air China service in Sept?

http://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/201...-deals-beijing

I can't see how the demand is there for two PEK flights from YUL, and more stunningly how YUL would have two foreign carriers to PEK while YYZ has but one, plus AC.

Makes me wonder again if Air China will actually begin YYZ service at all.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 01:25 AM   #3855
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Some more info regarding Air China. According to CAPA, Air China will not be allowed to fly to YYZ from PEK because Hainan has already secured all slots. So I guess that leaves Shanghai, which is what Air China was rumoured to start. Interesting though that that slot restriction doesn't seem to apply on the PEK-YUL route if both Hainan and Air China begin service.

http://centreforaviation.com/news/mo...ncouver-409066

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Montreal would be Air China's second Canadian destination after Vancouver. Air China is not able to fly to Toronto as Hainan Airlines secured the rights before Air China.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 06:04 PM   #3857
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Some more info regarding Air China. According to CAPA, Air China will not be allowed to fly to YYZ from PEK because Hainan has already secured all slots. So I guess that leaves Shanghai, which is what Air China was rumoured to start. Interesting though that that slot restriction doesn't seem to apply on the PEK-YUL route if both Hainan and Air China begin service.

http://centreforaviation.com/news/mo...ncouver-409066
Congrats to YUL. They are going from nothing to two sets of flights. I am sure AC through their JV with AC will tag on their code. Lots of opportunities for growth to other areas.

This year will be very interesting. Lets see how things go from here.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 02:40 AM   #3858
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I don't think there is any chance at all that both HU and CA will start PEK-YUL... the market just isn't there...
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Old January 17th, 2015, 03:11 AM   #3859
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I would be surprised if both Hainan and Air China start flights from PEK to YUL. I'd assume the one route-one airline policy would still be applied. I believe that right now, it's just some sort of battle between HU and CA to see who will get the YUL flight. I think HU should get it given it has the better suited aircraft for the route, but CA has heavy support from the government so we'll see how is plays out, should be interesting. Congrats to YUL though! We'll see where YYZ falls with all of this.
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Some more info regarding Air China. According to CAPA, Air China will not be allowed to fly to YYZ from PEK because Hainan has already secured all slots. So I guess that leaves Shanghai, which is what Air China was rumoured to start.
As for Shanghai, would it still be possible for Air a China to perform such a flight given that China Eastern got the rights for a PVG-YYZ route? And since the China Eastern flight is going daily this summer, along with Air Canada's daily YYZ-PVG flight, is there room for Air China to come into play?
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