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Old September 20th, 2016, 02:52 AM   #4181
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YYZ has become an important hub. I flew to DFW from YYZ, last Dec, and we were #10 in queue. Everyday while driving home on 401 west around 5:30, I see several planes landing or taking off during 10-15 mins stretch in Rush hour.
If GTAA and Feds make the right moves YYZ can easily become the top airport in the world.
Not until Canada lowers its airport taxes! Dramatically! Anyone who has compared Canadian vs American prices know it's much cheaper flying from the US.
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Old September 20th, 2016, 05:56 AM   #4182
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Not until Canada lowers its airport taxes! Dramatically! Anyone who has compared Canadian vs American prices know it's much cheaper flying from the US.
Do Canadian airports lobby Ottawa to make that happen or have they given up? They might get a more receptive ear with the Trudeau government. He comes across as more open to innovation, change, signing off on policies that are strategically smart.

There's more money to be made lowering the fees than than there is in charging them.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 02:13 AM   #4183
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I'm all for pearson getting bigger and better, but what irks me the most is the underutilized smaller airports in Canada. If the price was $100+ lower at YHM (Hamilton), I'd fly out of there, but then the schedule comes into play and it's not so good, let alone the destinations.

Slowly it's changing and for the better.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 11:06 PM   #4184
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AirCanada announces flights from YYZ to Mumbai(BOM)

Air Canada Announces Toronto-Mumbai 787 Dreamliner Service

New route to India's largest city is Air Canada's third route to India

MONTREAL, Sept. 28, 2016 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada today announced it is launching a new, three-times weekly service between Toronto and Mumbai, the largest city and financial capital of India. The non-stop, year-round service will be operated starting July 1, 2017 using a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner.

"Air Canada is pleased to offer customers this new, non-stop route between Toronto and Mumbai. This is Air Canada's third route to India after Toronto-Delhi service that began last fall and our new seasonal Vancouver-Delhi service commencing next month. This will be the only non-stop service between Canada and Mumbai and with it Air Canada now offers the best coverage of any carrier operating in the Canada-India market," said Benjamin Smith, President, Passenger Airlines at Air Canada.

"The Canada-India Business Council welcomes Air Canada's announcement today. The Canada-India corridor offers tremendous economic opportunities and our organization is working to promote trade and commerce between our two countries. Air linkages are essential to this, so having a non-stop flight between Canada's and India's financial and business centers should serve as a further catalyst to this rapidly developing trade relationship," said Gary Comerford, President and Chief Executive Officer of the Canada-India Business Council.

With the announcement of the new Toronto-Mumbai route, Air Canada now offers three Boeing 787 Dreamliner routes between Canada and India, including year-round daily Toronto-Delhi service and seasonal Vancouver-Delhi service launching Oct. 20, 2016. Toronto-Mumbai will operate year-round with Air Canada's state-of-the-art Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner. The aircraft features 30 International Business Class lie-flat seat suites, 21 Premium Economy and 247 Economy Class seats, with upgraded in-flight entertainment at every seat throughout the aircraft.

Flights will be available for sale immediately with special introductory pricing and are timed to optimize connectivity at Air Canada's global hub at Toronto Pearson. All flights provide for Aeroplan accumulation and redemption and, for eligible customers, priority check-in, Maple Leaf Lounge access, priority boarding and other benefits.




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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:12 PM   #4185
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Finally!!!
This is an excellent move to tie the economic engines of the respective countries together.
AC just needs to build more brand awareness within India to grab some of Indian originating traffic away from the ME3.
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Old October 1st, 2016, 04:04 PM   #4186
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So Rogue will be offering YYZ-TXL direct? I thought we wouldn't be seeing any direct flights to Berlin until the Germans solved the problem with the new Berlin airport (which was supposed to be open 5 years ago... but rumours say it was so poorly constructed that it's cheaper to scrap it and start over)
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 06:30 AM   #4187
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AC seeking flights to IKA. Presumably it will be from YYZ rather than YUL: http://www.aviationiran.com/2016/10/.../#.V_HQpPArLIU
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Old October 3rd, 2016, 08:58 PM   #4188
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AC seeking flights to IKA. Presumably it will be from YYZ rather than YUL: http://www.aviationiran.com/2016/10/.../#.V_HQpPArLIU
Yah, can't imagine that route being from YUL over YYZ. Population and economic ties alone would dictate that the route be YYZ-IKA.
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Old October 5th, 2016, 06:21 AM   #4189
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Yah, can't imagine that route being from YUL over YYZ. Population and economic ties alone would dictate that the route be YYZ-IKA.
AC actually planned to start YUL-BEY in 2003. Unfortunately, days before the launch, it cancelled after the US pressured Ottawa to revoke permission claiming it would allow terrorist infiltration.

If somehow the US doesn't make a fuss over AC starting IKA, then it will be printing money. Unlikely that either Iran or the US will allow direct flights for some time yet.
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Old October 5th, 2016, 04:31 PM   #4190
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AC actually planned to start YUL-BEY in 2003. Unfortunately, days before the launch, it cancelled after the US pressured Ottawa to revoke permission claiming it would allow terrorist infiltration.

If somehow the US doesn't make a fuss over AC starting IKA, then it will be printing money. Unlikely that either Iran or the US will allow direct flights for some time yet.
YUL-BEY makes sense given the huge Lebanese population in Montreal. IKA, not as much sense from YUL if the point is to connect on to BEY. There are plenty of other options via Europe and the ME. I suspect an IKA route would be out of YYZ.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 03:14 PM   #4191
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This winter Airtransat will be the first Canadian airline flying into more destinations in Dominican Republic. With the schedule of YYZ-SDQ-YYZ every sunday they will have 5 destinations, one more than their competition.

http://www.airtransat.com/en-CA/Dest...?opentab=photo

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Old October 11th, 2016, 11:48 PM   #4192
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Not sure how accurate these articles are (one is very recent from July and the other from February), but they indicate Biman Bangladesh's interest and plans to serve YYZ (which has been on the table for a while now), AND Air Canada planning to serve Dhaka via Delhi???

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/2016/02/22/17249

http://en.prothom-alo.com/corporate/...nned-expansion
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Old October 14th, 2016, 02:50 AM   #4193
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Not sure how accurate these articles are (one is very recent from July and the other from February), but they indicate Biman Bangladesh's interest and plans to serve YYZ (which has been on the table for a while now), AND Air Canada planning to serve Dhaka via Delhi???

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/2016/02/22/17249

http://en.prothom-alo.com/corporate/...nned-expansion
Really doubt it. YYZ-DEL-DAC has no advantage over YYZ-Gulf-DAC. AC has far more lucrative opportunities.

Maybe we'll see BG operating 2-3 weekly flights via Britain. It would be a cheap and exotic way across the Atlantic.

I'm also not too sure where this comes from:
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During the meeting, the Canadian envoy said Canada wants to establish a theme park in Bangladesh to attract more foreign tourists to visit Bangladesh centring the Tourism year 2016.

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Old October 16th, 2016, 03:49 AM   #4194
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Really doubt it. YYZ-DEL-DAC has no advantage over YYZ-Gulf-DAC. AC has far more lucrative opportunities.

Maybe we'll see BG operating 2-3 weekly flights via Britain. It would be a cheap and exotic way across the Atlantic.

I'm also not too sure where this comes from:
Why? They got rid of their DC10s and replaced them with some newer 77Ws.
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Old October 16th, 2016, 03:59 AM   #4195
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YUL-BEY makes sense given the huge Lebanese population in Montreal. IKA, not as much sense from YUL if the point is to connect on to BEY. There are plenty of other options via Europe and the ME. I suspect an IKA route would be out of YYZ.
YYZ-IKA will be a tough nut no matter what. AC rouge may be lacking the service with their 767s. On the flipside, the mainline AC would be a huge gamble. The corporate traffic is not there yet. Keep in mind the competition with their one stop connections. When I flew TK the last time, TK's comfort class was packed with Iranians. It all comes down to testing the market.
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Old October 26th, 2016, 12:18 AM   #4196
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Per CAPA they are reporting Air India is back via Birmingham to YYZ from Amritsar in 2017.

http://centreforaviation.com/news/air-india-to-operate-amritsar-toronto-via-birmingham-operations-in-2017--605106

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Old October 26th, 2016, 05:41 PM   #4197
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Per CAPA they are reporting Air India is back via Birmingham to YYZ from Amritsar in 2017.

http://centreforaviation.com/news/ai...n-2017--605106

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Ah, beat me to it!

Here is another article about it:

http://micebreakingnews.com/amritsar...india-in-2017/

Also from CAPA, it looks like the Swedavia business development manager is considering new routes from Stockholm Arlanda. I also don't have the ability to unlock the article but maybe someone can find something else on it.

http://centreforaviation.com/profile...al-airport-yyz
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Old October 29th, 2016, 04:50 AM   #4198
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Per CAPA they are reporting Air India is back via Birmingham to YYZ from Amritsar in 2017.

http://centreforaviation.com/news/ai...n-2017--605106

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What is the deal with Amristar? Isn't DEL their hub? Excuse my ignorance since I am not updated on this.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 07:18 AM   #4199
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What is the deal with Amristar? Isn't DEL their hub? Excuse my ignorance since I am not updated on this.
The GTHA has a significant Punjab population and Amritsar is a major city in the Punjab region of India. It's also only 30 km from the Pakistani border, so even though PIA already flies to YYZ, there may be an opportunity to carry transiting passengers from India to Pakistan. Add to that, that both 9W and AC already fly to DEL, and the Indian community in both the GTHA and Amritsar have been lobbying endlessly for YYZ-ATQ, it was just a matter of time before this was going to happen.
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Old October 31st, 2016, 07:17 PM   #4200
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The GTHA has a significant Punjab population and Amritsar is a major city in the Punjab region of India. It's also only 30 km from the Pakistani border, so even though PIA already flies to YYZ, there may be an opportunity to carry transiting passengers from India to Pakistan. Add to that, that both 9W and AC already fly to DEL, and the Indian community in both the GTHA and Amritsar have been lobbying endlessly for YYZ-ATQ, it was just a matter of time before this was going to happen.
Actually both YYZ and BHX have large Punjabi/Sikh populations.

When Air India restarted YYZ in 2009 they did so as ATQ-DEL-BHX-YYZ with ex-UA 777-200s (non-ERs) and chose BHX due to the demographics.

Subsequently upon procurement of 777-200ERs the flight routing was changed to ATQ-DEL-LHR-YYZ-LHR-DEL-ATQ.

Finally the LHR portion was dropped when they received new 777-200LRs and was ATQ-DEL-YYZ-DEL-ATQ until it was quietly discontinued in 2012.

Don't think they'll make any money on this route as it'll be 99.9% VFR pax but as a spotter I am happy to see them returning to YYZ.
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