YYZ/YTZ | Toronto Area Airports

[Breakwood]

Originally Posted by nitzomoe

they should take away the fencing at the bacardi rum bar, ruins a very open atmosphere.

I agree, but it probably has to do with some sort of liquor law in Ontario. I bet by putting that fence there, it shows that you arent allowed to take open alcohol outside of that area.

[samsonyuen]

It seems strange they're shutting down their Delhi service. I guess once they get new planes, they can deploy them? I guess their China services are just so busy they are more profitable routes. That's too bad though. I agree, the AF ads in the subway station are quite impressive. I wonder if they'll ever add a second daily flight to YYZ, or if the airport charges too much for that to be cost-efficient...

[globetrekker]

Originally Posted by Filip

I'm going.

How was it? Was the presentation interesting?

[k.r.eagle]

I wanted to go, but had to be in Kingston (ON). I'm also interested to see what specific issues were discussed with the Masterplan - especially i) for 2020-2030 and ii) whether Pier G and Pier H will be completed before 2020.

[Filip]

Sorry, I didn't make it, some unfortunate events are leading up to my departure for Belgrade, tonight.

[globetrekker]

Originally Posted by Filip

Sorry, I didn't make it, some unfortunate events are leading up to my departure for Belgrade, tonight.

That's okay, but did anyone go? I'd really like to know what was said. I really wish that I had gone.

[nitzomoe]

been noticing that Qatar Airways has been advertising on the toronto subway. does anybody have any news if they're coming over?

[Filip]

Originally Posted by nitzomoe

been noticing that Qatar Airways has been advertising on the toronto subway. does anybody have any news if they're coming over?

Usually that would mean a direct connection! Unless there's something I'm missing here... I know for a fact that Qatar was waiting to see how another gulf carrier would do in the YYZ market (Etihad) which is doing brilliantly well, before it would consider expansion into Canada.. We might as well see Qatar here soon - considering Emirates is in a bit of a pickle regarding YYZ landing rights.

[Filip]

So anyone got any news of new carriers we might see at Pearson this year?

[nitzomoe]

nothing at all. even yyznews has no new toronto related flights posted.

[Filip]

Gah! I wish some major carriers would announce service here, just in time for the summer season - and of course I'll never quite get over Swiss not flying here. Btw, the aircraft lineup last week was interesting at T1's Pier F: Lufthansa A340-600, Alitalia B767, Air Canada A340-300.

[nitzomoe]

the a340 is not going to be there for long. According to yyz news its a leased type that AC is trying to get rid of. Cant wait until the 787's start rolling out in AC colors.

[Filip]

Originally Posted by nitzomoe

the a340 is not going to be there for long. According to yyz news its a leased type that AC is trying to get rid of. Cant wait until the 787's start rolling out in AC colors.

What's YYZ News.. Can you link me?

EDIT: Nvm I found the site.

Whatever happened to the SN Brussels news where they are to operate their own metal to YYZ, or Emirates, Jet Airways? I'm wondering about these three, as no peep was heard from all three since early January.

[hkskyline]

No clear skies for Pearson on rent
No budget relief on `brutal' airport tax
Toronto Star
Mar 20, 2007 04:30 AM
Chris Sorensen
Business Reporter

Toronto's Pearson International Airport will maintain its dubious reputation as one of the world's most expensive places to land a jetliner after failing to convince Ottawa to cut its annual rent obligations in the federal budget.

Yesterday's budget contained no airport rent reductions for Pearson despite mounting warnings from cost-conscious foreign airlines and a high-profile "fair deal" campaign launched by the Greater Toronto Airports Authority, the airport's operator, which paid more than $151 million in federal rent last year.

The GTAA estimates that nearly a third of its landing fees charged to airlines flow directly into Ottawa's coffers as part of the rent scheme. The extra costs are generally passed along to passengers in the form of higher ticket prices.

"We continue to be disappointed," said Fred Gaspar, the vice-president of policy and strategic planning for the Air Transport Association of Canada, which represents airlines.

Gaspar said the industry had been hopeful Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government would move after Transport Minister Lawrence Cannon said he would look into the matter last year. ATAC has dubbed the high rent a "brutal tax on aviation."

Ottawa's rent regime was created when the country's airports were spun off as non-profit authorities in the 1990s. Several airports later lobbied for relief from their future payment obligations amid travel downturns in the wake of 9/11 and the breakout of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome.

[Filip]

For God's sake, does the GTAA not realize that the ball is in THEIR court? The airport is run by them, they can decide to stop paying the rent, reduce it themselves - what is the federal government going to do, take over? SURE! Or better yet, Pearson should, in a hurry, complete the entire ADP (finish pier G, H, I etc) dramatically reduce landing fees and then go bankrupt, poof! Pearson then becomes federal responsability - debt and all!

Jeez, if only the GTAA realized how much teeth they really have in this situation, we wouldn't really be in such a mess.

The Feds would be suicidal if they thought of hurting YYZ more than they currently are. This is the country's international gateway, the national airline's hub and the entry point for millions upon millions of tourists and immigrants. YYZ is here to stay, it will continue growing despite federal sabotage; I'm just wondering how far this will go.

[Booyashako]

I plan on flying to Los Angeles in August. I checked prices on the internet and from Pearson Int'l a return ticket is CAD$667 (incl.tax/fees). From just an hours drive away a return ticket from Buffalo Int'l is CAD$327 (incl.tax/fees).

Which airport do you think I'll be flying from?

[nitzomoe]

Originally Posted by Booyashako

I plan on flying to Los Angeles in August. I checked prices on the internet and from Pearson Int'l a return ticket is CAD$667 (incl.tax/fees). From just an hours drive away a return ticket from Buffalo Int'l is CAD$327 (incl.tax/fees).

Which airport do you think I'll be flying from?

have a safe trip!

[globetrekker]

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[LordMandeep]

Montreal-based Air Canada ??

[k.r.eagle]

Originally Posted by LordMandeep

Montreal-based Air Canada ??

Air Canada's HQ is in Montreal. However, Toronto is its biggest hub.

Anyone know the imapct that increases in Hamilton and Toronto City Centre traffic is having on YYZ passenger numbers increases. I think Hamilton pax is around 500,000 yearly?