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Old February 25th, 2010, 03:52 AM   #1241
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Canada in line for $480 mill windfall from new Emirates flights
24 February 2010
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- Extra Emirates services would create over 2,800 new jobs - Major boost to tourism and local economies DUBAI, U.A.E., 24th February 2010 - New Emirates flights into Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary would bring $480 million of economic benefits and over 2,800 jobs to Canada, new research shows.

The study by independent transportation and tourism experts InterVISTAS Consulting, was revealed by Emirates Airline and British Columbia Transportation Minister Shirley Bond, on behalf of Premier Gordon Campbell, in Vancouver.

The research outlined the projected increase in tourism spend, taxes and economic activity resulting from the proposed services, which would significantly increase passenger traffic and cargo export capacity.

"Emirates Airline is seeking federal government approval to progressively increase connections between Canada, the Middle East and Asia," said Andrew Parker, Senior Vice President International Affairs at Emirates. "By growing leisure and business traffic, we can help to strengthen Canada's tourism, trade and investment sectors " as well as increase traffic for domestic airlines." "This study identifies a great economic opportunity and highlights the need for more progress on Open Skies agreements to remove barriers to international tourism and commerce," said Transportation Minister Shirley Bond."As a province and a country, we need to capitalize on services like those offered by Emirates Airline to realize our full economic potential." "During my recent visit to the United Arab Emirates, it was very apparent that Alberta needs to have direct international air access from key markets like the UAE in order to stay competitive in the global economy," said Premier Ed Stelmach. "We will continue to urge the federal government to pursue more open sky agreements to help strengthen our province's business and tourism opportunities."

InterVISTAS, whose clients number airports, airlines and governments around the world, including Transport Canada, concluded the study in early 2010. The research examined the impact of Emirates increasing its current three-weekly Dubai to Toronto flights to daily and double-daily services, and adding a daily service to Vancouver and Calgary. The study showed that expanding Emirates' services would produce the following benefits for Canada:

- 274,927 new passengers travelling through Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver airports annually - 2,859 new full-time jobs created across Canada - $115.4 million in new economic activity at airports in Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver annually - $82.6 million in new tourism spending annually - An additional $246 million in new spin-off economic activity across Canada annually - $38.1 million in new tax revenue annually

The study also highlighted the creation of an additional 27,000 tons of cargo export capacity for Canadian goods between Canada, Dubai and points beyond. Currently, demand for cargo space for Canadian goods on Emirates flights exceeds capacity, with space routinely sold out months in advance.

"This survey confirms our long-held belief that Emirates can act as an important facilitator for economic growth in Canada,' added Andrew Parker. "Not only would the services create new jobs, increased tax revenue and tourism spending; but through our extensive global network, we would provide Canada with enhanced links between businesses and greater access to international capital and trade markets."

Canada's domestic carriers stand to benefit significantly from the projected growth in foreign tourists and business travellers. No Canadian carrier has ever offered direct flights to Dubai, which is not only a strategic hub for the Middle East but also a key gateway between East and West.

"Emirates is committed to supporting Canada through the promotion of business and tourism traffic," said Parker. "Canada's vast beauty and world class attractions have been seen by millions of Olympic viewers. We want to capitalize on this opportunity by flying more tourists and business people to Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary."

"Increased Emirates Airline services to Canada would provide a significant economic stimulus to tourism and trade in Canada. The increased air services would also create addition revenue for Canadian airports as no Canadian carrier currently offers these air services," said Dr. Michael Tretheway of InterVISTAS Consulting, the authors of the study. Copies of the study are available at: www.emirates.com/economic

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Old March 1st, 2010, 07:04 PM   #1242
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Eva Air modifies YYZ flight

Eva Air has modified their YYZ-TPE return flight. It will no longer have a tech stop in Anchorage (ANC) and will be non-stop. This makes much more sense if they wanted to compete with AC and CX.
Revised timings below from EvaAir.com:

BR036
Depart Taipei (TPE) 6:40PM
Arrive Toronto (YYZ) 8:55PM

BR035
Depart Toronto (YYZ) 11:40PM
Arrive Taipei (TPE) 3:15AM +2

Frequency: Monday, Thursday, Saturday
All flights operated by Boeing B777-300ER

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Old March 2nd, 2010, 01:45 AM   #1243
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The service from Emirates would cause other airlines to leave
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 03:26 AM   #1244
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Ethiopian Bilateral Air Agreement

well, it's finally official - a new air agreement between Canada and Ethiopia....

No. H027/10
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Canada and Ethiopia reach first-ever air transport agreement

OTTAWA — Canada’s Transport Minister John Baird and the Honourable Peter Van Loan, Minister of International Trade, today announced the successful conclusion of the first-ever air transport agreement with the Government of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia.

"The Government of Canada is committed to developing new and expanded international air services to benefit Canadian travellers, shippers, and the tourism and business sectors," said Baird. "This agreement with Ethiopia allows the first direct scheduled air services between the two countries."

The agreement provides flexible routings for airlines to operate flights between Canada and Ethiopia, as well as the flexibility to adjust prices according to market forces. Airlines may also choose to offer air services using the flights of other airlines, commonly known as code-sharing services.

"Our government is committed to expanding the movement of people, goods and services in support of Canadian business activities abroad. Canadian companies, including those in the aerospace sector, have had recent success in doing business in Ethiopia," said Minister Van Loan. "This agreement will help increase trade, investment and people-to-people links."

The air transport agreement contains strong provisions dealing with aviation safety and security, reflecting their importance to both countries. The provisions of the agreement are being applied administratively, which allows new air services to be introduced immediately.

Since January 2006, the Government of Canada has negotiated open, new or expanded air service agreements with 50 countries:

•open skies-type agreements with eight countries: the United Kingdom, Ireland, Iceland, New Zealand, Barbados, the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and South Korea;
•expanded agreements with nine countries: Portugal, Brazil, Mexico, Japan, Jordan, Singapore, the Philippines, Morocco and Cuba;
•new “first-time” agreements with nine countries: Ethiopia, Algeria, Kuwait, Serbia, Croatia, Panama, Turkey, South Africa and Tunisia; and
•a comprehensive air transport agreement between Canada and the European Union’s 27 member states. This includes Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovakia and Slovenia, with which Canada did not previously have air agreements.
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Canada Tunisia Air Agreement

and Canada announced a second new air agreement today! This one with Tunisia will probably have no effect on YYZ, but you may see Tunisair flying to Montreal (YUL) soon..

No. H028/10
For release - March 1, 2010

Canada and Tunisia reach first-ever air transport agreement

OTTAWA — Canada’s Transport Minister John Baird and the Honourable Peter Van Loan, Minister of International Trade, today announced Canada’s first-ever air transport agreement with Tunisia.

“With the completion of this agreement with Tunisia, the Government of Canada has now signed or expanded an air agreement with 50 countries worldwide since 2006,” said Baird. “We have worked at this unprecedented pace because air agreements result in more convenient flights and cheaper fares to help travellers, businesses, shippers and the tourism industry.”

“Our government is committed to creating prosperity for Canadian businesses and Canadian communities through promoting the free movement of goods, services and people. Air transport agreements are one of a number of ways that our government is helping Canadian companies expand their commercial relationships around the world,” said Minister Van Loan. “This air transport agreement complements other avenues we are pursuing with Tunisia to facilitate trade and investment, including measures to protect foreign investment.”

Airlines of each country will now be able to provide scheduled air services in the other’s territory.
The agreement also provides airlines with the flexibility to adjust their prices to meet current market conditions. In addition, airlines may choose to offer air services using the flights of other airlines, commonly known as code-sharing services.

The agreement is being applied administratively, which allows new air services to be introduced immediately.

Since January 2006, the Government of Canada has negotiated open, new or expanded air service agreements with 50 countries:

•open skies-type agreements with eight countries: the United Kingdom, Ireland, Iceland, New Zealand, Barbados, the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and South Korea;
•expanded agreements with nine countries: Portugal, Brazil, Mexico, Japan, Jordan, Singapore, the Philippines, Morocco and Cuba;
•new “first-time” agreements with nine countries: Algeria, Kuwait, Serbia, Croatia, Panama, Turkey, South Africa, Ethiopia and Tunisia; and
•a comprehensive air transport agreement between Canada and the European Union’s 27 member states. This includes Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovakia and Slovenia, with which Canada did not previously have air agreements.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 05:56 AM   #1246
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That would a long shot for Tunis Air. I flew them two years ago when I was on vacation there. The interior decor is some green colour. Not a bad airline. The fleet is pretty much all Airbus. If I am not mistaken, the only long haul that they have is the TUN-LHR. I doubt that is a long haul if anything.

The A300 is the only long hauler in their fleet, a part from A340 flown by their gov people.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 06:01 AM   #1247
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The service from Emirates would cause other airlines to leave

Hmmm I can tell about other for sure, but PIA would leave YYZ 100%. They do one stop-over that EK offer as well. If the cheap tickets flood the market, PIA are out of luck. Most of my Pakistani friends tell that PIA are not that cheap to fly. Summer season coach class, expect to pay 2K for coach class seat easly.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 08:57 AM   #1248
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Hmmm I can tell about other for sure, but PIA would leave YYZ 100%. They do one stop-over that EK offer as well. If the cheap tickets flood the market, PIA are out of luck. Most of my Pakistani friends tell that PIA are not that cheap to fly. Summer season coach class, expect to pay 2K for coach class seat easly.
Agreed about the impact to PK.
But to clarify... PK offers 3x weekly non-stop service to Pakistan (LHE, KHI, and ISB) on their B777-200LRs. The problem is that they do the non-stop from a different city each day which is very frustrating for passengers.

PK782 operates non-stop on Fridays YYZ-KHI
PK784 operates non-stop on Sundays YYZ-ISB
PK790 operates non-stop on Tuesdays YYZ-LHE

However, both PK784 and PK790 continue on to KHI.
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Old March 5th, 2010, 12:18 PM   #1249
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^

That is a very similar scenerio as we had with Malev @ YYZ. The affordable tickets flooded the market from LH/OS/AF/KL. Once MA was out of YYZ, the fares went up.

Also if EK were to flood the market with those cheap tickets, I think that Pakistani Canadians would fly EK for sure over PK. It would offer a better sevice with a better price in the better hub as Dubai.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 02:51 PM   #1250
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Arkefly Skeds

This summer's Arkefly schedules as reported today at airlineroute.net...

ArkeFly from 01JUL10 to 09SEP10 is launching 2 weekly Amsterdam – Toronto service with Boeing 767-300ER.

Schedule as follows:

OR395 AMS1420 – 1720YYZ 763 24
OR396 YYZ1855 – 0905+1AMS 763 24
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Old March 15th, 2010, 05:29 AM   #1251
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Going back to that Pakistani Airline PIA, I always wondered how they allow them to fly to Canada and Usa..... I mean isn't that country always under the state of emergency? I see bombings and what not on TV news. Any feedback?
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Going back to that Pakistani Airline PIA, I always wondered how they allow them to fly to Canada and Usa..... I mean isn't that country always under the state of emergency? I see bombings and what not on TV news. Any feedback?
The country's political state alone should not dictate whether the airline is air-worthy. The ultimate decision is based on safety. If the airplanes are safe and there is a bilateral air services agreement in place, then they should have no problems to proceed to get slots and fly in.

They may place more security arrangements to enhance safety measures though.
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Going back to that Pakistani Airline PIA, I always wondered how they allow them to fly to Canada and Usa..... I mean isn't that country always under the state of emergency? I see bombings and what not on TV news. Any feedback?
If there was a legitimate concern that the airline was unsafe or their security procedures were lax then maybe you have a case to prevent them from flying.
But why only to Canada & US? The citizens of other countries deserve to be protected too.
As a counterpoint, there are lots bombings in Israel too, that doesn't mean that ELAL shouldn't fly internationally.

There's internal trouble (separatist movements, civil wars etc.) in many many countries around the world... Spain, Thailand, Turkey, Ireland, Columbia etc.
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Some very valid points. The reason why I mentioned US and Canada, I think Americans expect you to get FAA rated in order to determine the 1 or 2 category rating.
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Emirates aims to dump surplus capacity on Canada: Rovinescu

MONTREAL – Air Canada’s chief executive stepped up his attack on Persian Gulf airline Emirates Monday, characterizing his rival as a state-sponsored opportunist with too many planes as he outlined growth opportunities for his own carrier in Africa and the Middle East.

In his latest swipe at the United Arab Emirates’-based airline, Air Canada Chief Executive Calin Rovinescu said Emirates is aiming to win more access to Canada’s airports only because it wants to unload surplus capacity into the country.

“Emirates’ real aim is to dump its excess capacity resulting from too many wide-body aircraft commitments, including A-380s, into the Canadian market, just as it has elsewhere in the world,” Mr. Rovinescu said in a speech to a business audience at the Canadian Club of Montreal. “As a state-owned carrier with access to virtually unlimited capital, it would siphon passengers from other carriers who are making connections en route and connect them through its Dubai hub instead.”

Because airlines flying internationally from Canada rely on connecting passengers to fill their flights, the loss of these passengers would lead to cuts in service and eventually to the elimination of some direct service to European destinations from secondary hubs, Mr. Rovinescu said. He argued that would ultimately mean fewer choices for travellers, not more as Emirates argues.

Mid-East carriers like Emirates and Qatar are launching new non-stop routes and buying hundreds of airliners to fly them in a nearly unprecedented industry expansion. Emirates alone currently has 137 aircraft in service with 140 planes on order, said Robert Kokonis, president and managing directors of consultancy AirTrav Inc. “It’s just an unbelievable amount of capacity. It’s staggering.”

Mr. Kokonis said he expects that Canada and the UAE will strike a revised air liberalization agreement by the end of the year that allows the UAE carriers to boost their service to Canada to 10 flights a week from the current six.

Air Canada and Emirates executives have been waging a war of words over the past week after Emirates asserted that more flights from Dubai to Canada would generate $480-million of economic activity and 2,800 new jobs. Mr. Rovinescu last week called those claims “the stuff of fairy tales.” That prompted Emirates’ senior vice-president of international affairs, Andrew Parker, to charge that Air Canada benefits from Canadian protectionism, which he argued hurts consumers.

Mr. Rovinescu said he has been “particularly exorcised” by Emirates actions because the UAE has linked the debate over greater bilateral access for Canadian and UAE-based carriers to Canada’s continued access to the Camp Mirage military logistics base there. “How’s that for no state involvement in their affairs?”

The UAE has increased pressure on Ottawa in its efforts to get additional landing rights for its commercial airlines Emirates and Etihad Airways, suggesting that the renewal of Canada’s lease on the Camp Mirage forward operating base could be in jeopardy when it comes up for renewal in June if those landing rights are not granted.

At stake are lucrative ticket sales from internationally-bound passengers, which both companies are keen to grow.

Air Canada currently has about 35% of the Canada-Europe market and 29% of the Canada-Middle East market, a share it considers a success given the number of competitors on those routes. But it has only 5% of the Canada-Africa market and its planes carry only 1% or 2% of traffic between the United States and each of Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

Mr. Rovinescu said that Air Canada believes it can win two extra points of market share by carrying more U.S. passengers on these routes and connecting them through Canadian airports like Montreal. He said the key to winning that share is building its relationships with other carriers in the Star Alliance, a partnership of 26 carriers in different parts of the world who hand off passengers to one another.

Brussels Airlines, a Belgian carrier operating 51 airliners which joined the Star Alliance in December, operates 200 daily flights to 55 European airports and 14 African terminals. Mr. Rovinescu said with the addition of the Brussels Airlines network connecting through Brussels, Air Canada will be a more attractive travel option to African cities like Abidjan, Dakar and Douala.

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A bit ironic AC is complaining of state protectionism when they themselves and predecessor Canadian were supported through several bankruptcies before?
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MONTREAL – Air Canada’s chief executive stepped up his attack on Persian Gulf airline Emirates Monday, characterizing his rival as a state-sponsored opportunist with too many planes as he outlined growth opportunities for his own carrier in Africa and the Middle East.

In his latest swipe at the United Arab Emirates’-based airline, Air Canada Chief Executive Calin Rovinescu said Emirates is aiming to win more access to Canada’s airports only because it wants to unload surplus capacity into the country.

“Emirates’ real aim is to dump its excess capacity resulting from too many wide-body aircraft commitments, including A-380s, into the Canadian market, just as it has elsewhere in the world,” Mr. Rovinescu said in a speech to a business audience at the Canadian Club of Montreal. “As a state-owned carrier with access to virtually unlimited capital, it would siphon passengers from other carriers who are making connections en route and connect them through its Dubai hub instead.”

Because airlines flying internationally from Canada rely on connecting passengers to fill their flights, the loss of these passengers would lead to cuts in service and eventually to the elimination of some direct service to European destinations from secondary hubs, Mr. Rovinescu said. He argued that would ultimately mean fewer choices for travellers, not more as Emirates argues.

Mid-East carriers like Emirates and Qatar are launching new non-stop routes and buying hundreds of airliners to fly them in a nearly unprecedented industry expansion. Emirates alone currently has 137 aircraft in service with 140 planes on order, said Robert Kokonis, president and managing directors of consultancy AirTrav Inc. “It’s just an unbelievable amount of capacity. It’s staggering.”

Mr. Kokonis said he expects that Canada and the UAE will strike a revised air liberalization agreement by the end of the year that allows the UAE carriers to boost their service to Canada to 10 flights a week from the current six.

Air Canada and Emirates executives have been waging a war of words over the past week after Emirates asserted that more flights from Dubai to Canada would generate $480-million of economic activity and 2,800 new jobs. Mr. Rovinescu last week called those claims “the stuff of fairy tales.” That prompted Emirates’ senior vice-president of international affairs, Andrew Parker, to charge that Air Canada benefits from Canadian protectionism, which he argued hurts consumers.

Mr. Rovinescu said he has been “particularly exorcised” by Emirates actions because the UAE has linked the debate over greater bilateral access for Canadian and UAE-based carriers to Canada’s continued access to the Camp Mirage military logistics base there. “How’s that for no state involvement in their affairs?”

The UAE has increased pressure on Ottawa in its efforts to get additional landing rights for its commercial airlines Emirates and Etihad Airways, suggesting that the renewal of Canada’s lease on the Camp Mirage forward operating base could be in jeopardy when it comes up for renewal in June if those landing rights are not granted.

At stake are lucrative ticket sales from internationally-bound passengers, which both companies are keen to grow.

Air Canada currently has about 35% of the Canada-Europe market and 29% of the Canada-Middle East market, a share it considers a success given the number of competitors on those routes. But it has only 5% of the Canada-Africa market and its planes carry only 1% or 2% of traffic between the United States and each of Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

Mr. Rovinescu said that Air Canada believes it can win two extra points of market share by carrying more U.S. passengers on these routes and connecting them through Canadian airports like Montreal. He said the key to winning that share is building its relationships with other carriers in the Star Alliance, a partnership of 26 carriers in different parts of the world who hand off passengers to one another.

Brussels Airlines, a Belgian carrier operating 51 airliners which joined the Star Alliance in December, operates 200 daily flights to 55 European airports and 14 African terminals. Mr. Rovinescu said with the addition of the Brussels Airlines network connecting through Brussels, Air Canada will be a more attractive travel option to African cities like Abidjan, Dakar and Douala.

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Mr. Rovinescu's ocomments are completely on point.

Canada should only sign a "open-skies" bilateral with the UAE if they allow AC 5th and 6th Freedoms. So far UAE has not been willing to do this, but rather trying to bully the Canadian government via the media... not the smartest move IMO.
EK will get their daily Toronto flight... but they'll be stuck with that for a while I think.
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A bit ironic AC is complaining of state protectionism when they themselves and predecessor Canadian were supported through several bankruptcies before?
Being supported by the government during a bankruptcy is one thing... it's quite another when the your state-sponsor/owner has an agreement to buy any unsold seats so you can feign profitability.

Don't get me wrong, I like flying EK. In fact I'm flying with them in three weeks and wish they had a daily flight to Toronto as it would make scheduling my travel plans easier. But they are what they are and to try and portray them as anything even resembling AC, or the late CP is comparing apples to oranges.
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Mr. Rovinescu's ocomments are completely on point.

Canada should only sign a "open-skies" bilateral with the UAE if they allow AC 5th and 6th Freedoms. So far UAE has not been willing to do this, but rather trying to bully the Canadian government via the media... not the smartest move IMO.
EK will get their daily Toronto flight... but they'll be stuck with that for a while I think.
But is Canada prepared to give EK 5th freedom as well?

I don't quite buy the thought that Canada can successfully become a transit hub for US passengers, not for Europe. They're far better connected. For South America, go to Miami. Asia might be a bit different, but a transit in Toronto results in a significant cost increase thanks to high fees and taxes.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 06:39 PM   #1260
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But is Canada prepared to give EK 5th freedom as well?

I don't quite buy the thought that Canada can successfully become a transit hub for US passengers, not for Europe. They're far better connected. For South America, go to Miami. Asia might be a bit different, but a transit in Toronto results in a significant cost increase thanks to high fees and taxes.
I am only going on personal experience. When I lived in Bermuda, it was as cheap or cheaper to fly via Toronto to Europe than through the US. As a matter of fact, AC is able to compete for travellers in the US like Philly and the prices are competitive.

There was an article in the Philly paper that specifically mentioned this about a year or so ago. Based on that I have also seen that it is actually cheaper to fly from another city to the airline's hub and connect elsewhere at a lower price than flying from the hub city itself.

Since the US has introduced the requirement of VISA's even for transit passengers, it is proving to be more in the favour of AC. What will hurt them more is the dollar being at par. Not so many years ago, you could have parked at Pearson and seen many different license plates from the North Eastern US parked there.
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