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Old October 7th, 2013, 02:07 PM   #201
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The situation was slightly different. The soil around Lleida and Saragosse has been known for their spontaneous potholes because of the nature of the ground (with important layers of gypsum), and it still happens naturally. So when the HSL was built the problems were known, and the infrastructure was designed considering these conditions. However, during the time the new line was inaugurated for commercial services, media started to publish lots of information about the potholes that appeared in the fields close to the line and started to question the safety of the new HSL.

However, finally anything happen and the high speed services weren't affected by the potholes.

Actually the problems on the Madrid-Barcelona HSL were caused by setting the new ERTMS II system. I think it was the first line in Europe to implement it and it provoked lots of delays for increasing the top speed up to 300 km/h: during the first months the top speed was around 200-220 km/h (the maximum allowed by the traditional Spanish signage system).
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Old October 8th, 2013, 11:09 AM   #202
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As far as I know, it's about a Chinese loan, to 'remake' the Silk Route once again, so there can be more flow of people and goods between China and Europe, East and West.

The Chinese I think are also funding some other railway projects in Serbia and Bulgaria...
Chinese are certainly not funding railway projects in Bulgaria. I haven't heard even media rumoring about chinese investments.
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Old October 9th, 2013, 01:46 PM   #203
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Old October 10th, 2013, 10:57 PM   #204
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Old October 14th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #205
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Old October 16th, 2013, 02:23 PM   #206
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Turkey’s railways to become 'double-lane': Minister

After constructing double-lane highways, the Transport Ministry will now upgrade 70 percent of the railway network to 'double' lanes from its current proportion of just 4 percent



The Istanbul-Ankara high-speed railway is set to have nine stops: Polatlı, Eskişehir, Bozüyük, Bilecik, Pamukova, Sapanca, İzmit, Gebze and Pendik. DHA photo

The government will upgrade 70 percent of the railways to “double” lanes, a dramatic increase from the current proportion of only 4 percent of the country’s network, Transport Minister Binali Yıldırım has said.

Yıldırım said 96 percent of the conventional railways were still single–lane and work had already started to build double-lane railways.

“The double-lane, which was successfully applied to the highways, is now being applied to the railways. Only 4 percent of our 11,120 kilometers conventional railway network is double-lane, only 446 kilometers in total. Seventy percent of the conventional railway network will be double-lane in framework of our 2023 targets,” he said in an interview on Oct. 15.

Nine stops between Ankara and Istanbul

Yıldırım stressed that the private sector’s involvement in railway transportation was contributing to Turkey’s becoming a "global player" in the field.

A draft code, presented to Parliament on March 6, aimed to establish a company under the name Turkish State Railways (TCDD) Transport AŞ for train management units. Public and private legal entities and firms will also be licensed to build their own railway infrastructure, become infrastructure operators on these railways and manage trains on the national railway network.

The Istanbul-Ankara high-speed railway (YHT), slated to open in a month, will reportedly have nine stops: Polatlı, Eskişehir, Bozüyük, Bilecik, Pamukova, Sapanca, İzmit, Gebze and Pendik. The journey between Istanbul and Ankara is expected to last three hours in total.

The Ankara-Istanbul YHT will also be linked to the Marmaray, Istanbul’s massive rail tunnel project that will carry passengers under the Bosphorus, through the Pendik suburban train station. It will enable an uninterrupted travel from Asia to Europe.

TCDD director Süleyman Karaman said in July that once the new rail lines were built and the trains were operational, they would adopt a price policy “cheaper than planes and more expensive than buses.”

The TCDD will announce a record tender of 6 billion Turkish Liras in a bid to buy new trains, Karaman said. “The tender will include a total of 106 train units. As it is such a big tender, we will include the condition of establishing a train factory in Turkey and impose a 51 percent minimum local purchasing condition,” he said.

Yıldırım said the investments were slated to increase to 45 billion liras by 2023, as railways for YHT were planned to reach 10,000 kilometers. “We will connect 15 cities with YHT,” he said, adding the total length of the railway networks would increase from 11,000 kilometers to 25,500 in the country.
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Old October 26th, 2013, 07:26 PM   #207
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Chinese are certainly not funding railway projects in Bulgaria. I haven't heard even media rumoring about chinese investments.
I stand corrected - the government could draw a chinese loan up to 200mln euro in 2014 for infrastructure projects according to "Budget law 2014" But rumors say that it won't be used for railway projects. More likely Cherno more[A5] motorway would be funded.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #208
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Old December 4th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #209
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Istanbul-Ankara High Speed Line will be opened in February / March 2014 and connected to Marmaray Tube

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Istanbul-Ankara speed railway may open in February

The Istanbul-Ankara high-speed railway may be opened in February, Transport Minister Yıldırım says, noting the ministry’s projects,valued at $43 billion, will be completed in six years



The Turkish government plans to construct high-speed and normal railways in the 15 cities.

Turkey’s high-speed railway (YHT) between Istanbul and Ankara will be opened by the first months of the next year, Transport Minister Binali Yıldırım said yesterday. In addition to this, some 86 billion Turkish Liras ($43 billion) worth of transport, communication and maritime projects will be completed in five or six years, he noted.

The government plans to construct high-speed and normal railways in the 15 cities in which majority of the population lives, said Yıldırım during the ministry’s 2014 budget presentation at the Parliament’s Plan and Budget Commission.

Yıldırım stated that they had begun testing for the Istanbul-Ankara YHT. “We’ll begin the initiation of the Ankara-Istanbul YHT,” he said, adding that it may open February.

The Ankara-Istanbul YHT will also be linked to the Marmaray, Istanbul’s massive rail tunnel project that was opened on Oct. 29 and carries passengers under the Bosphorus, through the Pendik suburban train station. It enabled an uninterrupted trek from Asia to Europe. The journey between Istanbul and Ankara is expected to last three hours.

Yıldırım recalled the private sector’s involvement in railway transportation. A draft code, presented to Parliament on March 6, aimed to establish a company under the name Turkish State Railways (TCDD) Transport AŞ for train management units. Public and private legal entities and firms will be licensed to build their own railway infrastructure, become infrastructure operators on these railways and manage trains on the national railway network as well.

The minister noted that they aimed for full integration with their neighbors by railway. “The Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway project will come into operation by the end of next year at the latest. This is a project carried out by three countries. It isn’t enough to complete it unilaterally,” Yıldırım said.

86 bln lira-projects to be finished in 6 years

Yıldırm stated that they anticipated the projects in the transport, communication and maritime sectors, which total 86 billion Turkish Liras, would be complete within five or six years.

He said the government made 268 billion lira investments in these three sectors in the last decade. There are currently 460 main projects, as the number reached approximately 3,900 with the sub-projects added, he said.

“The investment volume of these projects is 184.5 billion liras. As the realized part is worth 98.2 billion liras, the rest is worth 86 billion liras and is expected to be completed within five or six years,” he said.

Yıldırım noted that some projects in the transport, communication and maritime sectors worth 47 billion liras were contracted within the public-private sector partnership (PPP) model, as alternative financing. 6 billion liras of those projects are complete, he added.

Istanbul’s third bridge and third airport projects are based on PPP model.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 10:56 AM   #210
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The transport minister is known for his premature announcements. He also needs good propaganda because he is running for mayor of Izmir on March 30.
The electricity on the wires was just switched on a few days ago on the route Eskisehir-Izmit. The section from Izmit to Istanbul outskirts is still seeing the tracks being laid, the stations are in the initial stages of construction. Under these circumstances, I think we would be lucky if by the elections we saw a first test ride.
Also, several tunnels were postponed so the initial travel time will be above 3 hrs between Ankara and Istanbul. Modernization of rails in Istanbul will take at least until summer of 2015. Until then the High-speed train cannot enter the Marmaray tunnel.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #211
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Istanbul-Ankara High Speed Line

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Old December 14th, 2013, 01:10 PM   #212
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funny, those tight curves do not look like they will allow for high speeds, and this is in the plains (Pamukova). I wonderwhether any kind of real HSL will come out of this?
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Old December 16th, 2013, 01:11 PM   #213
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Konya Station

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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #214
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konya is at present turkey's most modern train station, elevators and escalators on all platforms, electronic announcement boards with relevant information. while over-ambitious plans for ankara and eskisehir have actually delayed the start of any real development there, the relatively moderate refurbishment in konya worked out well and is actually sufficient for now and the near future. historical buildings were renovated and integrated into the modern station.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 02:30 AM   #215
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funny, those tight curves do not look like they will allow for high speeds, and this is in the plains (Pamukova). I wonderwhether any kind of real HSL will come out of this?
Min turn radius should be 3500m.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 02:57 PM   #216
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Turkey is developing his own High Speed Trainsets

It will be ready in 2018





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Old December 18th, 2013, 04:33 PM   #217
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Who is the builder?
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:53 PM   #218
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It is a consortium of TÜLOMSAS,TÜVASAS,ITÜ,TÜBITAK and ASELSAN
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I bet there will be a foreign tech supplier. Or at least they have to buy considerable number of trains for the interim needs.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 09:33 PM   #220
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They say domestic know-how and technology will reach 70 %. They are cooperating with Defense Industry ( ASELSAN ).
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