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Old January 15th, 2016, 02:10 AM   #401
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There are around 10, the pinkish building is also train station (interwar period, local Ankara stone) and the small cubic white building just right of it (or left, can't remember exactly) is since during Ataturk's time, when Greeks were 50 kms. close to Ankara and about to occupy the capital. It is really tiny, but you can see the advance (the steps taken) in 100 years of railway building.

Ankara's high speed train station might be small, but its network is also underdeveloped. Or let's say, at the beginning.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:46 AM   #402
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thank you for information. Yes, the station is whole complex not only new modern building.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 02:17 PM   #403
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There are around 10, the pinkish building is also train station (interwar period, local Ankara stone) and the small cubic white building just right of it (or left, can't remember exactly) is since during Ataturk's time, when Greeks were 50 kms. close to Ankara and about to occupy the capital. It is really tiny, but you can see the advance (the steps taken) in 100 years of railway building.

Ankara's high speed train station might be small, but its network is also underdeveloped. Or let's say, at the beginning.
To be exact: the small stone building was built by the Anatolian Railway Company in 1890, the present station was built in 1938, and now there will be the mall with rail access as of 2016.
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:51 PM   #404
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so it's gonna be a huge complex actually, right?
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Old January 16th, 2016, 12:32 AM   #405
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but its just a mall with rail access.
perfect definition.

I wish Bruno Taut, Paul Bonatz or Clemens Holzmeister would design it...
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Old January 18th, 2016, 05:39 PM   #406
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but its just a mall with rail access.
perfect definition.
Are you against ? I ask that because it's not the first time I hear people criticizing
that - but as far as I know, this concept was first widely deployed in Japan,
by private railway companies that also own the commercial surfaces ;
and Japan railways are usually highly regarded, both in terms of infrastructure
and railway practices. Why should it be appraised in one country and rejected
in another ?
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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:53 PM   #407
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No, I think that is not what is Arda's main criticism. If you ask me, there is nothing wrong with a train station having shops. However it is important that transport functions take priority. I remember when the new Potsdam station cum mall opened, there was no place to sit while waiting for your train, and if you sat on the stairs, the security would kick you out. That is not the way to go!
But what Arda means is: this could be any old mall, not the central station of the capital. While Ankara was planned and designed in the 1920s/1930s by internationally famous architects and urban planners, this is nothing fitting to develop their legacy.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 06:24 PM   #408
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OK, got it. Regarding seating space, this is unfortunately a global trend, as
those places usually become monopolized by homeless people. Not specifically
a public transportation issue, but with the consequence that where you have
to wait, there is no place to go, except where you must pay.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 06:51 PM   #409
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OK, got it. Regarding seating space, this is unfortunately a global trend, as those places usually become monopolized by homeless people. Not specifically a public transportation issue, but with the consequence that where you have to wait, there is no place to go, except where you must pay.
I agree, but I think the last point you raise is intentional rather than coincidental. When airports are privatised one of the first things the new owners do is usually to cut back on public-space chairs and increase the number of highly priced restaurants and cafes. The economics of this is of course obvious. It would not be at all surprising to see the railway stations drift in the same direction.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 06:57 PM   #410
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Yes you must be right. I remember having read a magazine not so long ago where it was
said that a merchant's association in a small town along the sea in Belgium requested - and
obtained - from the municipal authorities to remove most of the public seating in the
streets, so that tourists can't find places to picnic and are forced into restaurants and cafes.
There is no reason why railway stations wouldn't follow the same trend.
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Old January 29th, 2016, 12:27 AM   #411
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Sakarya river high speed railway viaduct between Ankara and Istanbul which is 2400 m, the longest one in Turkey
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Old January 31st, 2016, 12:19 AM   #412
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Old March 31st, 2016, 01:10 PM   #413
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Old May 3rd, 2016, 08:01 PM   #414
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Number of high-speed passenger

Passengers in YŁksek Hızlı Tren (YHT) HS trains (millions)
2009: 0,942
2010: 1,890
2011: 2,557
2012: 3,350
2013: 4,207
2014:
2015:
TOTAL: 12,946

Source: Eurostat Transport: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/tra.../data/database

Passengers-kilometers in YŁksek Hızlı Tren (YHT) HS trains (billions)
2009: 0,237
2010: 0,476
2011: 0,665
2012: 0,914
2013: 1,186
2014:
2015:
TOTAL: 3,478

Source: Eurostat Transport

Passengers and Passengers-kilometers world data, and explanation of the fact that the operators and the UIC count -in some cases- the number of passengers on high-speed trains, not on high-speed lines.
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Old July 3rd, 2016, 03:53 PM   #415
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From 11 July the tracks through Ankara are cut.
The YHT High Speed trains from Konya and Istanbul (Pendik) can still reach Ankara station, over a single line. A small number of suburban services with limited stops will also use this line.
Schedules of YHT services are extended by 10 minutes in this area, and by a further 5 minutes between Eskisehir and Pendik.
The route to the east of Ankara is completely severed.
Services from Kurtalan, Tatvan and Kars will terminate at Irmak for bus connection forward.
The Malatya - Ankara service is cancelled.
The overnight Adana - Ankara service is replaced by a daytime Adana - Kayseri service, which connects there into the above services to Irmak.
The Ankara - Izmir service runs between Eskisehir and Izmir only, and is retimed. Connections from Ankara are available by YHT services.
The Kayas - Ankara - Sincan "banliyo" all-stations service is entirely suspended.

The purpose of this is to facilitate construction of the "Baskentray" project, which will see Kayas - Ankara - Sincan become a 4 / 5 / 6 track railway, with separate tracks for high speed services. The block is planned to last for 18 months - but expect more.

Freight traffic which currently passes through Ankara will be diverted instead via Konya and Ulukisla.

I am very critical of the manner in which such projects are planned and announced in Turkey. Very little value is placed on the disruption which this will cause to the lives of the many people who rely on the public transport in this region.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 02:00 PM   #416
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Two little corrections:
3 banliyŲ trains per direction will be permitted through on the single line dedicated to YHT traffic in peak times.
The suspension of eastbound intercity trains is also due to facilitate construction of the westernmost section of the Ankara-Sivas HSL, which mostly follows the old alignment until Irmak.
Your assessment of course could not be truer. TCDD thinks nothing of putting off faithful customers by several years closures, often exceeded due to delays and flanked by complete secrecy of state of development. Just when everyone has forgotten there ever was a train line these routes re-open and the odd half-hour improvement of traveling times does little to win back customers. There are of course exceptions, most notably the HSR lines Ankara-Eskisehir/Konya, or the very busy Izmir-Aydin line.
Nonetheless rumor has it that Izmir-Balikesir-Bandirma/Eskisehir electrification will soon be completed and services in Northwestern Anatolia will return to normal, including both Izmir-Eskisehir(-Ankara) sleepers running once again via Balikesir, the shorter route.
Also after endless years of digging up the rails west of Istanbul, TCDD is supposedly negotiating the return of international services to Sofia, Bucharest, and possibly even beyond (Belgrade-Budapest-Warszaw-Moscow) with the extension of the Russian sleeper's route currently running Sofia-Moscow. However there are still unresolved issues under discussion.
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Old October 30th, 2016, 10:50 PM   #419
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A state-of-art train station opens in Turkey's capital Ankara
http://www.dailysabah.com/ankara/201...capital-ankara
Nice interior but I did not like the exterior design.
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Old December 19th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #420
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The 10th UIC World Congress on High-Speed Rail

On 3 March 2016 at the 6th International Eurasia Rail Exhibition in Istanbul, Mr Jean-Pierre Loubinoux, Director General of UIC, Mr ÷mer Yildiz, Director General and President of the Board of Turkish Railways (TCDD) and Chairman of the UIC Middle-East Region, and Mr GŲkhan ÷lmez, Director General of CMS Project, a professional conference and event organizer, signed the contract for the organization of the 10th UIC World Congress on High-Speed Rail in Turkey.
Following the 9th edition of the UIC HIGHSPEED World Congress successfully held in Tokyo in July 2015, the 10th edition will be hosted by TCDD and jointly organized by UIC, TCDD and CMS Project. It will take place on 11-14 July 2017 in the Turkish capital Ankara.
The UIC World Congress on High Speed Rail was initiated by UIC and has been organized by them since 1992. It serves as the leading event for showcasing and exchanging information and experience at a global level on all issues related to high-speed rail planning, development and operations. Speakers and participants represent the railway and transport world, international organizations, railway manufacturers and connected supply industries, research bodies, universities, etc.
The 9th edition held in Tokyo attracted 2,200 participants from all over the world.
Turkey was particularly relevant for the location of the 10th World Congress on High-Speed Rail. High-speed rail operations in Turkey (ďYHTĒ) started in March 2009 on the Ankara-Eskisehir line, followed by Ankara-Konya in 2011, Konya-Eskisehir in 2013, Ankara-Istanbul and Konya-Istanbul in 2014.
In addition to conventional lines, TCDD is responsible for the construction, maintenance and management of the high-speed lines as well as for the operation of the ďYHTĒ high-speed trains. Turkey is currently one of the countries with the most significant investment plans for railway development.
The contract signed between the Director Generals of UIC, TCDD and CMS Project stipulates the constitution of several structures for the organization of the congress: an honorary committee, a scientific committee (responsible for UIC Membersí high-speed issues), a steering committee and an organizing committee.
The congress organizing committee will be steered jointly by Mr Ignacio Barron de Angoiti, Director of UIC Passengers and High-Speed Department, Mr Ibrahim Cevik, Head of the Foreign Affairs Department at TCDD, Dr GŲkhan ÷lmez, Director General of CMS Project.
The initial meeting of the UIC/TCDD/CMS organizing committee will be held shortly at UIC in Paris.


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