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Old June 21st, 2007, 01:28 PM   #1741
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MILWAUKEE BREWERS 41-31.
Go Brewers!!!

Not only that but they're now 7.5 games up on the Cards and 8 games up on the Flubbies!
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Old June 21st, 2007, 04:44 PM   #1742
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They're finally becoming a team to keep interest in again. I was concerned there for a while that they'd just begin a losing streak and fall apart....but they're regaining their composure.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 06:10 PM   #1743
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No hitter is looking like the best thing that ever happened to them!
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Old June 21st, 2007, 06:40 PM   #1744
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This is a picture that runs in the Journal sometimes for this retirement place. It seems cropped from what is normally in the ad. I love this view. I wonder if it is available more full.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:50 PM   #1745
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Did any of you see the Young and the Restless episode yesterday when Hall, Hardy, Cappy, and soup were on? I didn't but JSonline had a streaming video of the scene. Not bad acting for baseball stars.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 07:57 PM   #1746
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This is a picture that runs in the Journal sometimes for this retirement place. It seems cropped from what is normally in the ad. I love this view. I wonder if it is available more full.
This view is basically the same angle I'm talking about. I found/stole a pic that is very similar to that one but more up to date and alot better quality. Anything looking down Lakeshore or from the lagoon in Veterens Park is also apart of this angled view that I think is the best. The pic I posted shows the whole skyline though.

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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:06 PM   #1747
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Go Brewers!!!

Not only that but they're now 7.5 games up on the Cards and 8 games up on the Flubbies!
I know we're supposed to keep sports discussion off the development thread, but have to second this ... GO BREWERS!

Comfortable lead in 1st place, winning their last three series, including two in a row on the road against good teams, 10 games above .500 and we're heading into a relatively easy schedule before the All Star break AND to top it all off we have some real contenders for the All Star team, including PRINCE FIELDER in first place in voting for the First Base position. Man oh man this really might be the season all Brewers fans have been waiting for!

This all I'm going to say about this subject here, but I would recommend the great website www.brewerfan.net for all kinds of Brewers talk and info.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:34 PM   #1748
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This is a picture that runs in the Journal sometimes for this retirement place. It seems cropped from what is normally in the ad. I love this view. I wonder if it is available more full.
Of course, this is the view south view from the St. John's Home on Prospect Ave. A bit dated pic since the UCT is not even in view yet. Any word on the proposed tower addition for senior living at St. John's? Thought I read somewhere that it could be in the 12-15 story range...
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Old June 21st, 2007, 08:34 PM   #1749
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Furthermore, correct me if I'm wrong, but the state supreme court is an elected body, so the governor can't be blamed for it's makeup.
The governor makes appointments to fill unexpired vacancies, whom then have to go before the voters in a contested election at first opportunity in a rotational schedule (no more than one of the seven can be up in any single year) for a full ten year term. One recent Doyle appointment will not be up for 4 or 5 years. OTOH, there is an upcoming supreme court vacancy (due to a full-term retirement) that will be filled by election in the next year or so, the first in MANY years. It also has been MANY years since the last sitting justice has been voted out (1960s?).

It was manly Doyle appointments whom sided with the tribes last year, even though the Federal Indian Gam(bl)ing Regulatory Act specifically does not require the states to allow tribes to offer games that are otherwise prohibited in the state.

Also remember that it was then Attorney General James Doyle whom ruled in an Atty-Gen opinion (1991?) that the original amendment to the State Constitution that authorized the lottery basically allowed the legislature to offer any games that it wanted to, even though there were several references to the word "ticket" in its text. Federal judge Barbara Crabb then used that opinion in her ruling that gave the tribes their upper hand and ordered Tommy Thompson to negotiate games beyond the otherwise legal bingo, ticket-based numbers games and parimutual racing (the first two of which the tribes were already offering).

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Old June 21st, 2007, 09:02 PM   #1750
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It was manly Doyle appointments whom sided with the tribes last year, even though the Federal Indian Gam(bl)ing Regulatory Act specifically does not require the states to allow tribes to offer games that are otherwise prohibited in the state.
First, I can't vouch for the specifics as to why certain games were allowed, it may have been a horrible legal decision (though one I personally have no problem with), I'm sure there was a legal basis for the decision as well. However, givin the makeup of the court, how can it have been mainly Doyle appointments that sided with the tribes? Consider the court members:

Chief Justice Shirley S. Abrahamson
- appointed by Governor Patrick Lucey in 1976, reelected since

Justice Jon P. Wilcox
- appointed by Governor Tommy Thompson in 1992, reelected since

Justice Ann Walsh Bradley
- elected to the Supreme Court in 1995

Justice N. Patrick Crooks
- elected to the Supreme Court in 1996

Justice David Prosser, Jr.
- appointed by Governor Tommy Thompson in 1998, elected in 2001

Justice Patience D. Roggensack
- elected to the Supreme Court in 2003

Justice Louis B. Butler
- appointed by Governor Jim Doyle in 2004

Anyway, I suppose this is all besides the point in a development thread, I'll shut up now.
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Old June 21st, 2007, 11:20 PM   #1751
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First, I can't vouch for the specifics as to why certain games were allowed, it may have been a horrible legal decision (though one I personally have no problem with), I'm sure there was a legal basis for the decision as well. However, givin the makeup of the court, how can it have been mainly Doyle appointments that sided with the tribes? Consider the court members:

Chief Justice Shirley S. Abrahamson
- appointed by Governor Patrick Lucey in 1976, reelected since

Justice Jon P. Wilcox
- appointed by Governor Tommy Thompson in 1992, reelected since

Justice Ann Walsh Bradley
- elected to the Supreme Court in 1995

Justice N. Patrick Crooks
- elected to the Supreme Court in 1996

Justice David Prosser, Jr.
- appointed by Governor Tommy Thompson in 1998, elected in 2001

Justice Patience D. Roggensack
- elected to the Supreme Court in 2003

Justice Louis B. Butler
- appointed by Governor Jim Doyle in 2004

Anyway, I suppose this is all besides the point in a development thread, I'll shut up now.
Somehow I don't recall Roggansack being on a ballot. OTOH, Butler has solidly toed the Doyle line since his appointment and tipped the court to a 4-3 ultra-left majority. Before his appointment, the court was siding 4-3 against the tribes on the gambling issue, in fact finding all of the 2003 compacts to be illegal/unconstitutional, a decision that Doyle simply ignored. The 2006 rulings reversed that.

Also, ever since the Butler appointment, the court has also been issuing a series of totally bizarre 4-3 tort case rulings that have been making every personal injury vulture in the nation salivate in eager anticipation - this is a VERY REAL economic development issue and something that I fear could effectively kill growth in the state - all due to liability lawsuit fears and an out of control court system.

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Old June 22nd, 2007, 12:04 AM   #1752
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Somehow I don't recall Roggansack being on a ballot. OTOH, Butler has solidly toed the Doyle line since his appointment and tipped the court to a 4-3 ultra-left majority. Before his appointment, the court was siding 4-3 against the tribes on the gambling issue, in fact finding all of the 2003 compacts to be illegal/unconstitutional, a decision that Doyle simply ignored. The 2006 rulings reversed that.

Also, ever since the Butler appointment, the court has also been issuing a series of totally bizarre 4-3 tort case rulings that have been making every personal injury vulture in the nation salivate in eager anticipation - this is a VERY REAL economic development issue and something that I fear could effectively kill growth in the state - all due to liability lawsuit fears and an out of control court system.

Mike

No scare tactics or exaggerations here folks. None. No, seriously. Really, this poster isn't partisan at all, telling it like it is people.

No fearmongering here at all!
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 12:19 AM   #1753
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First, I can't vouch for the specifics as to why certain games were allowed, it may have been a horrible legal decision (though one I personally have no problem with), I'm sure there was a legal basis for the decision as well. However, givin the makeup of the court, how can it have been mainly Doyle appointments that sided with the tribes? Consider the court members:

Chief Justice Shirley S. Abrahamson
- appointed by Governor Patrick Lucey in 1976, reelected since

Justice Jon P. Wilcox
- appointed by Governor Tommy Thompson in 1992, reelected since

Justice Ann Walsh Bradley
- elected to the Supreme Court in 1995

Justice N. Patrick Crooks
- elected to the Supreme Court in 1996

Justice David Prosser, Jr.
- appointed by Governor Tommy Thompson in 1998, elected in 2001

Justice Patience D. Roggensack
- elected to the Supreme Court in 2003

Justice Louis B. Butler
- appointed by Governor Jim Doyle in 2004

Anyway, I suppose this is all besides the point in a development thread, I'll shut up now.
Don't forget recent Republican Annette Ziegler who just won in an election. This whole point of Democrats controlling the S.C. is just ridiculous at best.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 12:59 AM   #1754
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Politics. Bah!
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 03:13 AM   #1755
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Needed to show this - a picture from the Hoan on the Milwaukee Photo Thread:


That's a lot better than what we've jokingly seen previously.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 03:47 AM   #1756
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Don't forget recent Republican Annette Ziegler who just won in an election. This whole point of Democrats controlling the S.C. is just ridiculous at best.
Thanks, that's the retirement election that I was thinking about in a prior post. She replaced a retiring justice whom normally sided with the conservatives and IIRC, it was about the dirtiest, nastiest judicial campaign in state history with liberal action groups nationwide pulling out all of the stops to get another from their side on the court. It is still a 4-3 liberal majority, though.

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Old June 22nd, 2007, 03:54 AM   #1757
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Needed to show this - a picture from the Hoan on the Milwaukee Photo Thread:


That's a lot better than what we've jokingly seen previously.
I've always liked that broad vista view of the downtown and rest of the city skyline after topping the crest on the Hoan bridge.

Nice photo!



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Old June 22nd, 2007, 04:12 AM   #1758
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I'll go on record as being pro-Hoan-view, and that photo shows why!
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 04:14 AM   #1759
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Crop out that ugly-ass road, and the view is noice! And even in this pic, we still can't see anything west of the river.
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Old June 22nd, 2007, 04:20 AM   #1760
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That's probably the best photograph you'll ever see of that view. Very nice work, whoever took it... cubercle maybe? Anyway, I still think the view makes Milwaukee look stumpy. If anything, it reinforces my overwhelming desire to have a new tallest.
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