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Old February 16th, 2007, 05:59 PM   #61
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Old February 16th, 2007, 06:01 PM   #62
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Old February 16th, 2007, 06:03 PM   #63
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Old February 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #64
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Excuse my ignorance but are they extending Marseille St Charles?
Yes: since 10 years at least !!!

In the futur, there will be an other TGV Station in Marseille next to old "Blancarde Station": it will open with the HSR track "Italy-Catalonia" (Genova)-Nice-Toulon-Marseille-Avignon-Montpellier-Narbonne-Perpignan-(Barcelona)
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Old February 16th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #65
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yeah it is kind of a non ending construction site. Normally the "halle honorat extension" is to open by June 2007 (but I am pretty sure it is going to be delayed...another time).

Actually the whole city center is "under construction" due to euromed projects, tram and extension of the metro.

Urban planners are currently working on Marseille's Blancarde train station, trying to figure out how it can be extended to receive LGV ARC MED trains.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 07:44 PM   #66
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Yes: since 10 years at least !!!

In the futur, there will be an other TGV Station in Marseille next to old "Blancarde Station": it will open with the HSR track "Italy-Catalonia" (Genova)-Nice-Toulon-Marseille-Avignon-Montpellier-Narbonne-Perpignan-(Barcelona)
How big will this extension be?

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yeah it is kind of a non ending construction site. Normally the "halle honorat extension" is to open by June 2007 (but I am pretty sure it is going to be delayed...another time).

Actually the whole city center is "under construction" due to euromed projects, tram and extension of the metro.

Urban planners are currently working on Marseille's Blancarde train station, trying to figure out how it can be extended to receive LGV ARC MED trains.
Is the main problem fitting in 400 metre long platforms?
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Old February 16th, 2007, 11:05 PM   #67
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Don't exagerate
SNCF service is better than most of world trains compagnies.
It is right comparated at Japanese trains compagnies Sncf is .
Of course I exagerated. In fact the TGV service is perfect, punctual, clean and fast...but the local train service is... anyway that's not the subject.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 01:38 AM   #68
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Thats is fantastic but I would not feel safe travelling at those speeds along rails. I loved watching the TGVs passing us while driving on the motorways in France. It showed us that driving at 120km/h is not that fast. I did not get to ride in a TGV but I rode the Eurostar and the Thalys which I believe have similar speeds.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 02:14 AM   #69
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Thats is fantastic but I would not feel safe travelling at those speeds along rails. I loved watching the TGVs passing us while driving on the motorways in France. It showed us that driving at 120km/h is not that fast. I did not get to ride in a TGV but I rode the Eurostar and the Thalys which I believe have similar speeds.
It's perfectly safe so don't worry.

Eurostar and Thalys trains are TGV's aswell.
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Old February 17th, 2007, 09:32 PM   #70
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They should run a silver and blue TGV duplex to London St Pancras when the CTRL fully opens just to see what it looks like
TGV Duplex are not allowed to cross the channel tunnel with passengers onboard for easy understanding safety raisons. Eurostar are specialy design to cross the chunnel.
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Old February 18th, 2007, 01:28 PM   #71
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TGV Duplex are not allowed to cross the channel tunnel with passengers onboard for easy understanding safety raisons. Eurostar are specialy design to cross the chunnel.
I think it's usually Kent Fire Brigade who have the final say over what can and cannot use the channel tunnel?

Shame really, we'll soon be a proper part of the European high speed railway network. Be nice to actually increase the scope of services that can use the CTRL.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 08:10 PM   #72
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TGV Duplex are not allowed to cross the channel tunnel with passengers onboard for easy understanding safety raisons. Eurostar are specialy design to cross the chunnel.
This being said, there are still duplex trains which cross the chunnel everyday, and those are called "le Shuttle" ! You know those on which you put your cars in. They are on 2 levels.

As far as I know, Eurostars aren't faster than shuttle trains inside the tunnel. As such, I don't know for which reason there wouldn't be duplex trains also with the Eurostar!
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I'm not sure but i heard somewhere that Eurostar can go across the channel at 160kph wheras the double decker shuttle is limited at 110kph
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Old February 20th, 2007, 10:18 PM   #74
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As far as I know, Eurostars aren't faster than shuttle trains inside the tunnel. As such, I don't know for which reason there wouldn't be duplex trains also with the Eurostar!
€* are allowed to 160 km/h into the tunnel. Le Shuttle are 120 km/h only.
Using Duplex trains: why not is the futur but existing TGV Duplex could not because:
- Train should be cut by the middle in case of fire.
- Special fire doors must be closed between coachs during tunnel transit.
- Materials should resist more than 15' in case on fire.
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€* are allowed to 160 km/h into the tunnel. Le Shuttle are 120 km/h only.
Using Duplex trains: why not is the futur but existing TGV Duplex could not because:
- Train should be cut by the middle in case of fire.
- Special fire doors must be closed between coachs during tunnel transit.
- Materials should resist more than 15' in case on fire.
I thought in case one locomotive takes fire the second should take the other one out of the tunnel. So why cutting of in the middle? Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 06:10 PM   #76
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Great pics eomer!!!

a new tgv line will be inaugurated in june between Paris and Starsbourg where train will do 320km/h.
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I thought in case one locomotive takes fire the second should take the other one out of the tunnel. So why cutting of in the middle? Please correct me if I am wrong.
The Eurostar TGV's are made up of two half sets, incase of a fire both half sets can be split and taken out of the tunnel in opposite directions after the fire has been isolated. I believe that one of the on board train managers is qualified to drive the train out of the tunnel.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #78
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Old February 26th, 2007, 12:49 PM   #79
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New record 5 days ago at 557kph
Video avaliable here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/s...1ac4w_tgv-4402

and a second one there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6lBjd2Ij8I

And a really cool link for those who wanna all the speed records in video:

http://tgv16orange.free.fr/videos.html

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Old February 28th, 2007, 03:55 PM   #80
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According to our information, last 13 February, on the new line Paris Strasbourg, a TGV reached, in the neighbourhoods of the km 190 in the direction Strasbourg-Paris, the record speed of 559,4 kph (and not 553 kph as announced in "Le Parisien"). The train was made up of two "boosted" motor coaches and motorized bogies. According to personnel's on board, "one slightly slowed down not to exceed the 560 km/h", speed planned for the next official and approved record.
http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actua..._5594_kmh.html

True or not ?
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