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Old June 25th, 2015, 11:23 AM   #921
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The problem is last-mile connectivity (as always).

How do parcels and letters get to the station? Trucks are needed right? And transshipment takes time.
But it would be exactly the same if this was entirely road based. They bundle parcels and letter together in a logistics center and then send them off with different long range trucks to another center. There they distribute all the mail with local trucks again. Only in the french equation some of that long range mail is sent by train, which is faster than the trucks
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Old June 26th, 2015, 01:54 PM   #922
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Even in Belgium, where the post office had dedicated trains and sorting centers with a rail connection inside the buildings, they abandoned that to move to road-based transport. They even abandoned their sorting centers to build new ones connected to the highways. A very short-sighted move, if you ask me...
They did the same in the Netherlands. Their argument was that the trains had to much delays, ignoring the fact that 9 out of 10 delays were caused by loading not being completed in time.

On the other hand: Trucks have the advantage where it comes to flexibility. Scheduling an extra train on a few minutes notice, even if a train path is available is out of the question.
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Old June 26th, 2015, 04:31 PM   #923
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But on other lines with a great number of users, these last years, SNCF lauched the "clocking" so the trains leave at the same minute each hour for example...
Wait a minute, they don't have clock faced scheduling as a standard yet? In 2015? It was introduced in the Netherlands in 1970's! More than 40 years ago!
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Old June 26th, 2015, 11:14 PM   #924
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On a lot of lines, SNCF does indeed not yet operate a regular timetable. They just run trains (or buses) when they think it's needed.
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Old June 26th, 2015, 11:33 PM   #925
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And even when SNCF proposes something it defines a "regular interval timetable", it is not really that.

For instance, a regular timetable according to SBB or NS would look like that: 10.15 daily, 11.15 daily, 12.15 daily, 13.15 daily, 14.15 daily, 15.15 daily, ... (a train departs at the same minutes past each hour)

While according to SNCF would look like that: 10.15 daily, 11.11 daily except Saturday, 12.18 Monday-Friday, 13.05 Sundays only, 14.10 Monday-Saturday, 15.15 daily, ... (if, and only if, a train departs, then it leaves around the same minutes past each hour)



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The problem is, with all sorts of alternatives to paper mail available, the volumes of mail that remain do not require anymore the capacity of a train...
Yes, however shipment of packages might increase because of the e-commerce.
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Old June 26th, 2015, 11:57 PM   #926
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The TGV Postal rolling stock is 30 years old and probably needs replacement, which is quite expensive. For the price of one TGV, you can run a lot of trucks.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 02:38 PM   #927
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TGV Postal service will end by the end of this year. According to wikipedia the last run will actually be today. It will be replaced by swap bodies on regular trains.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 02:43 PM   #928
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Shame , what will happen with the Postal TGV units?
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Old June 27th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #931
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Shame , what will happen with the Postal TGV units?
They will be scrapped as they are over 30 years old.
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Old June 27th, 2015, 04:58 PM   #932
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Actually La Poste has announced recently that they'll try to find second-hand buyer(s) for those 5 TGV units. (SNCF maybe ? )
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Old June 27th, 2015, 06:40 PM   #933
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Perhaps Morocco as they will have TGV soon? Must be cheaper to give it to them than have it scrapped, no?
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Old June 30th, 2015, 09:55 PM   #934
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The problem is last-mile connectivity (as always).

How do parcels and letters get to the station? Trucks are needed right? And transshipment takes time.
Quite a lot of post now goes by air freight, which has the same issue.

I do wonder if part of the issue is filling it. How many trucks worth fit on the train? I have never seen a huge convoy of Royal Mail lorries on the motorway.
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 01:29 PM   #935
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Hi everybody!
I' m looking information on freight train speed in France and some other countries (Germany, USA, Canada, India, China)... it's pity i can't find any info on national operators web-sites of the above countries... please, help me find info on freight train speed (average speed, service speed and freight delivery speed)
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 02:50 PM   #936
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Actually La Poste has announced recently that they'll try to find second-hand buyer(s) for those 5 TGV units. (SNCF maybe ? )
There are 3 and a half TGV La Poste sets, not 5. The half set is kept as a reserve, although apparently it was sometimes used alone, with a special bogie on one side (TGVs are articulated trains, so it is not easy to split and operate them separately).
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Old July 3rd, 2015, 10:36 PM   #937
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on web-site of SNCF i can't find a section devoted to company's statistics... no annual reports, balance sheets, info on trains measures... May be you know where is it?
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SNCF has a section devoted to it, on their "Groupe SNCF" page.

Key figures: http://www.sncf.com/fr/finance/chiffres-cles
Recent financial info: http://www.sncf.com/fr/finance/a-la-une
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Old July 7th, 2015, 07:51 PM   #939
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On a lot of lines, SNCF does indeed not yet operate a regular timetable. They just run trains (or buses) when they think it's needed.
That's not too dissimilar to the operating strategy of JR East which doesn't run a interval time table on its Shinkansen either.
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From Global Rail News:

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Civil works completed on Tours-Bordeaux LGV
7 JUL, 2015



Contractor VINCI has completed the civils work on the 340-kilometre Tours-Bordeaux high-speed rail line ahead of schedule.

It has taken just 38 months for VINCI to finish the earthworks and civil engineering portion of the new South Europe Atlantic high-speed rail line. At the height of construction, more than 8,500 people worked on the project.

The line includes 24 viaducts and 500 other structures. Tracklaying is now underway at a rate of 650 metres of double-track rail a day

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