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Old April 2nd, 2007, 06:52 PM   #121
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So the investments they did will be used later. In the Belgium newspapers they said the 30.000.000 was only for the ride. If they build a complete new train with this money it's not only for a record attempt. I suppose they will try to build a new and superfast train based on this technology? Do you think it will be possible to reach these speeds in commercial service?
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:20 PM   #122
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So the investments they did will be used later
yes probably, as for the TGV that had the record of 515.3kph is used as a normal TGV

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In the Belgium newspapers they said the 30.000.000 was only for the ride. If they build a complete new train with this money it's not only for a record attempt.
this TGV is in a record configuration, 2 locomotives and 3 passengers cars (full of computer for this record)... but after this ride this TGV can be configure for a commercial exploitation, with 2 locomotives and 8 or 10 passengers cars...

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this TGV call AGV is a new technology, no other train used or actually use it
the commercial speed of the future AGV, if SNCF buy it, will be 350kph...
...580kph commercial speed, probably during the next century
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:21 PM   #123
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What costed 30 million euros is the several months of test ride, measures, preparation of the train, etc; not just Tomorrow's ride on TV.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 07:48 PM   #124
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Since 2001, the TGV runs at 320kph during 40km between Avignon and Aix en Provence...
That's right but what I meant is that in 2009 commercial speed of the new generation TGV called AGV will be 350kph.

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Old April 2nd, 2007, 08:02 PM   #125
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It is 350 Kph
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 09:55 PM   #126
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It is 350 Kph
My bad! Of course, I corrected.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 10:45 PM   #127
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Do the (bogies) still have monoblock wheels?
Does anyone knowabout this still? I'm going venture a guess and say yes the technology still uses monoblock wheels (that is, the axle+2wheel pair is a single block of steel)
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:36 PM   #128
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is this answer to your question?
the bogies are motorized on the V150


www.transport.alstom.com
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:47 PM   #129
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Hey, the source is from JR East, if you have a problem with it, take it up with them. If JR East says that it will be running its ***est model train at a commercial speed of 360 or so and with a max speed over 400 in some segments of the line by next year, then it is hard to argue since nobody else would know better - especially not you.
I finally found the discussion of the Fastech 360S on the JR East web site. It confirmed that the 360S is a simple prototype for a future comercial specification and the timetable was extremely vague. The specification, not the commercail units, might be available in 2008. The 405 km/h tesing of this prototype is about the equivalent of the 550+ km/p testing of the French AGV on the LGV-est. Both sets of tests are designed to verify new technologies prior to commercial specifications for operational trains. Historically it has taken 5 to 10 years for the comercial implementation of the new technologies on Japan's Shinkansen trains.

The most interesting part of the 360S is that it actually has two different nose shapes, one at each end to test noise suppression and it has some active tilt technology to reduce the vibrations at higher speeds. Other technologies being tested are three different types of boogie, at least two variations on the pantographs, durable breaking technologies and ice suppression technologies which will be essential when they reach Hokaido.

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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:17 PM   #130
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574,8 km/h !!!!!!!!!!!
The record has just been broken.

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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:26 PM   #131
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:37 PM   #132
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:38 PM   #133
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And now it is official
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 02:54 PM   #134
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It was cool to watch
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 03:26 PM   #135
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a link to the video of the record, from TV france2/dailymotion

record AGV 574,8 km/h
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 03:42 PM   #136
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 03:45 PM   #137
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Awesome stuff. It's a shame they couldn't have found the extra 7km/h and beaten the Maglev record speed too!
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 04:01 PM   #138
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OMG impressive video, thx for sharing!!
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 06:07 PM   #139
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I just watched this news on TV, it's amazing. running as fast as a airplane on the ground, wowwwwwwwwwwww!
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Old April 3rd, 2007, 07:14 PM   #140
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Well Done to the French, a fantastic job.
I just hope that when the phase two of the CTRL is completed and people in the see just how impressive these machines are the money will be invested expanding a greater TGV based network in the UK.
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