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Old August 13th, 2017, 01:45 AM   #1381
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Zachód słońca z TGV / Sunset with the TGV high-speed trains

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Old October 30th, 2017, 03:22 PM   #1382
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A question concerning the new TGV Océane for the Paris to Bordeaux
and Rennes High Speed Rail.

This article says that there will be 40 TGV Océane until 2019:

http://m.railjournal.com/index.php/h...ane-train.html

The fleet of 40 dual-voltage (25kV 50Hz ac/1.5kV dc) double-deck trains - dubbed TGV Océane by SNCF - were ordered in March 2012 using a €1.2bn option from a contract awarded to Alstom in 2007.

Those are TGV sets No. 851 à 865 and 867 à 891 (wikipedia)

Furthermore it says:

The new trains will be supplemented on Atlantique services by 24 existing Duplex trains, which will be refurbished for their new role.

What are the No of the 24 existing Duplex trains?

So it will be 40+24 = 64 TGV Océane?
How many of the 24 trains have been refurbished already?

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Old October 30th, 2017, 10:35 PM   #1383
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Certainly there was talk of 24 Duplex reformed with the new interior Océane, but in this page it says that there are 23. It may be missing 1 to reform, but I think not, that will be 23. They do not have ERTMS, which is strange, that's why they can not exceed 300 (TVM 300).
The numbers are: 244 to 249 and 251 to 267.

The numbers of the Océane are from 851 to 906 (55 trains, the 866 does not exist because it is the reserve locomotive, 40 of the initial order although 15 were subsequently added due to the threat of closing the factory in Belfort to do Intercités Bordeaux-Marseille) 16 in july and 22 at the end of 2017.

The Euroduplex Océane circulate normally from Paris to Bordeaux and Hendaye (LGV SEA, Sud Europe Atlantique), on the other hand, from Paris to Brittany and Loire (LGV BPL, Bretagne Pays de la Loire) circulate the Atlantique of a single floor (there will be 53 trains with interior Lacroix, the rest will cause low soon), the 23 Duplex, and 13 Duplex DASYE to take advantage of the ERTMS.
DASYE: 701 to 705, 737 to 743 and 749.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 10:54 AM   #1384
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Thank you!

How many of the old 23 Duplex are already in the new L`Oceane interieur?
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Old December 21st, 2017, 02:25 PM   #1385
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Hello

Random question but someone here might know.

On the TGV Booking website there lists 3 classes (Standard, premium and first) but on TGV trains isn't there only second class and first class?

Also, is it possible for someone to buy lounge access etc? I've seen something about TGV pro but that also only looks like a subscription sort of thing

Thanks for any help
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Old December 21st, 2017, 08:08 PM   #1386
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Are you looking at buying Thalys tickets?
As far as I know Eurostar and Thalys are the only trains with a three class system.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 02:03 AM   #1387
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Italian HSTs had 4 different classes when I tried them in 2014.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 02:52 AM   #1388
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Are you looking at buying Thalys tickets?
As far as I know Eurostar and Thalys are the only trains with a three class system.
Nope TGV ones!

When you buy on the SNCF website it gives you 3 classes
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 01:06 PM   #1389
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It looks like the difference between First and Pro is that with Pro/Business you get some extra quirks like lounge access, free newspaper and drinks, but you end up in the same seats on the train as First.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 01:54 PM   #1390
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Indeed! Actually there are no three proper classes in TGV trains/services, but only two.

(and the first class nowadays in TGVs offers only a wider seat... that's pretty much it)
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 05:48 PM   #1391
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Indeed! Actually there are no three proper classes in TGV trains/services, but only two.

(and the first class nowadays in TGVs offers only a wider seat... that's pretty much it)
Wider seats, more legroom, seats aligned with windows, power sockets, and generally a much quieter cabin.
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 06:02 PM   #1392
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Agreed! (except about power sockets which are now implemented in second class in almost every train/service over here in France: TER, InterCités, etc)
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Old January 16th, 2018, 01:35 PM   #1393
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SNCF plans TGV efficiency drive to compete with air and bus

What surprises me the most is that, according to the article, currently a TGV set is, on average, only used 8h a day. An airline wouldn't be able to survive if it only used its planes 8 hours a day.
'The potential is huge.'
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Old January 16th, 2018, 09:02 PM   #1394
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Hi,
I´m new on this forum and have question:
when will the Paris - Montauban - Toulouse TGV commence? I heard there is such a line in the making?
I just moved close to Montauban from Germany and am seeking a quick line to Mannheim in Germany for frequent travel. Would be great off anyone who knows could answer. MERCI !
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Old January 16th, 2018, 09:08 PM   #1395
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when will the Paris - Montauban - Toulouse TGV commence? I heard there is such a line in the making?
May be "never". (I mean after ... let's say 2040)
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Old January 16th, 2018, 10:39 PM   #1396
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SNCF plans TGV efficiency drive to compete with air and bus

What surprises me the most is that, according to the article, currently a TGV set is, on average, only used 8h a day. An airline wouldn't be able to survive if it only used its planes 8 hours a day.
'The potential is huge.'
Not to troll.. but French work ethics could use a kick up the behind. 8hr's a day is pathetic.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 11:18 PM   #1397
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Say more precisely :
French Railways work ethics could use a kick up the behind.
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Say more precisely :
French Railways work ethics could use a kick up the behind.
Ask Regions about TER services and they will say the same.
Because of that they are desesperate to tender the services.
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